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    Calina Servilius
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    Shadowflare + Swiftcast

    I personally believe that using swiftcast plus shadowflare is a complete waste of resources for a summoner. But, what are other summoners thoughts on this?

    I do like to go back to my posts and tell you guys any changes to my ideas and points of view.

    I have now a firm understanding that you can not judge when to use Shadowflare + swiftcast until your party has died a few times or something else comes up. Saving swift cast for resurrection on the first encounters is a small loss of dps. (though i still think that some people myself included don't want to wait for the cast time whenever we use Shadowflrare).

    Players below helped me to see both sides to this question. Thanks for posting your comments.
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    Last edited by Suggestion; 12-03-2014 at 01:03 PM. Reason: change of heart...

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    Ephier Samoht
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    Shadow flares cast time is 3 seconds (your GCD is 2.5 or lower, spellspeed hue huehue), so not swiftcasting it wastes time. Also leaving skills not on cooldown is also a DPS loss.
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    Icefang Thirteen
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    What else to use it on if you're not needing to Rez someone? Sometimes I use it to speed up Ruin1 before I have Ruin2 when doing hard fates but there's almost nothing worth using Swift on except Shadowflare.
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    Seravi Edalborez
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    Waste of what resources?
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    Quote Originally Posted by SeraviEdalborez View Post
    Waste of what resources?
    Using a 60 sec skill, for a skill with cast time of 2.88s seems like a waste. I'd rather be ready to rez at any moment as that is what summoners are given the ability to do.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Suggestion View Post
    Using a 60 sec skill, for a skill with cast time of 2.88s seems like a waste. I'd rather be ready to rez at any moment as that is what summoners are given the ability to do.
    Its also a waste to not use it at all. Every 60 seconds you wait you lose a swiftcast for no reason other than saving "resources".
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    If i can save a whm or scholars mana, i think that it benefits the whole group.
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    Seravi Edalborez
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    Quote Originally Posted by Suggestion View Post
    If i can save a whm or scholars mana, i think that it benefits the whole group.
    You're being way too conservative. SMN isn't first raise priority to begin with.
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    I know that not using it on shadowflare makes you miss out on a certain amount of dps, and if your goal is to be an extremly efficient dps more power to ya (lol literaly ). If I was in a group where i knew that if i rezzed someone that it would actually throw a whm off cause he is that good, i would turn to using swiftcast and shadowflare in a heartbeat.

    Its a combo that is to precious to give up. And is what separates our class from the other dps.
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    Aiye Pochre
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    Quote Originally Posted by SeraviEdalborez View Post
    You're being way too conservative. SMN isn't first raise priority to begin with.
    This. I use swiftcast on shadowflare as SCH ffs!!
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