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    ICEFANG13's Avatar
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    Icefang Thirteen
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    Jenova
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    Arcanist Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Hysterior View Post
    While it's great that SMN can raise, your job is DPS. You MUST optimize DPS at all time.
    Also to add that WHM and SCH have much smaller mana problems, they seem to be on par with SMN after a single rez, honestly I'm 'happy' when they have to rez, that means that manasong is more likely to be coming and I can DPS to my max.
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    Calina Servilius
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    Zalera
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    Summoner Lv 50
    If i can save a whm or scholars mana, i think that it benefits the whole group.
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    Seravi Edalborez
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    Hyperion
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    Gladiator Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Suggestion View Post
    If i can save a whm or scholars mana, i think that it benefits the whole group.
    You're being way too conservative. SMN isn't first raise priority to begin with.
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    Calina Servilius
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    Zalera
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    Summoner Lv 50
    I know that not using it on shadowflare makes you miss out on a certain amount of dps, and if your goal is to be an extremly efficient dps more power to ya (lol literaly ). If I was in a group where i knew that if i rezzed someone that it would actually throw a whm off cause he is that good, i would turn to using swiftcast and shadowflare in a heartbeat.

    Its a combo that is to precious to give up. And is what separates our class from the other dps.
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    Aiye Pochre
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    Coeurl
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    Archer Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by SeraviEdalborez View Post
    You're being way too conservative. SMN isn't first raise priority to begin with.
    This. I use swiftcast on shadowflare as SCH ffs!!
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    Calina Servilius
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    Zalera
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    Quote Originally Posted by KillyBamp View Post
    This. I use swiftcast on shadowflare as SCH ffs!!
    sounds good..
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    Effy Stoneheart
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    Midgardsormr
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    Arcanist Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by KillyBamp View Post
    This. I use swiftcast on shadowflare as SCH ffs!!
    Same. i always tell my static members "no one die in the next minute, i just used shadowflare" lol
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    Sen_Terrechant's Avatar
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    Sen Terrechant
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    Leviathan
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    Arcanist Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Suggestion View Post
    If i can save a whm or scholars mana, i think that it benefits the whole group.
    Shouldnt need to save their mana. WIth our current gear and everything else, WHM/SCH have FAR better MP management then SMN. They also get piety on their gear.

    Not to mention SMN have the smallest MP pool of any caster class.

    We SMN are running into MP problems in Final Coil even without counting in rez
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    Maracrea13x's Avatar
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    Fisher Hide
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    Hyperion
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    Astrologian Lv 70
    Using swift+ Shadowflare with your opening dots wouldn't hurt anything. And while SMN is about Damage over time, doesn't waste anything.
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    Calina Servilius
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    Zalera
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    Summoner Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Maracrea13x View Post
    Using swift+ Shadowflare with your opening dots wouldn't hurt anything. And while SMN is about Damage over time, doesn't waste anything.
    Are you saying it doesn't matter much either way then? I think i can slightly agree with using it as an opening on your very first rotation.
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