So Second Coil has been destroyed

[PandaPause]

Well FF14 right now is a linear gear progression game which older content getting nerf is bound to happen when newer and better gear contents coming out. This is not FF11 where E.body and byakko haidate last you yrs as bis lol.

What made FFXI unique in its use of gear wasn't that it was necessarily BiS for years. It was the fact you could macro in gear swaps for abilities and situations that made a lot of its gear old/new viable.

[Artiste]

You can now ignore almost all the mechanics and still win. How is this fun? Enjoy your hollow victory with all the teeth pulled from the big baddies.

At least T9 hasn't been nerfed into the ground (yet?).

Edit:
People are saying "go do savage", "go do FCoB", etc. Did savage and cleared T13 already. It's about the extremes of the nerfs. Echo itself is powerful enough. I happened to enjoy doing all of the fights and trying to do crazy things and push limits by flirting with death. That's gone now.

Edit2:
Verdict on T6: Complete tank and spank.
Blighted only does 3~4k. Can ignore most mechanics as long as entire party doesn't get eaten, and even then still killable.

Verdict on T7: Cornerstone mechanics that made the fight unique completely destroyed.
Renaud auto attacks 500-700. You can ignore them completely and just let them get stoned by people running around like headless chickens. All you have to do is just deal with the adds cause those still hit as hard as before. Voice/shriek has been utterly trivialized.

The designers of these fights must be drinking pretty heavily right now after seeing something they carefully built torn to shreds.

You're too good for this maybe ?
Or maybe you should try to do savage, second, et final coil coil with the lowest ilvl possible to get some challenge ? I dont know, it's just an idea.

[Velhart]

probably because ppl cleared it very recently and don't have a chance to lord it over people for long. It's quite literally the dumbest thread I have ever seen.

Don't know if you ever played WoW, but a large majority of people could not beat a raid even on Normal mode until it was toned down. Basically it is the same situation here.

What made FFXI unique in its use of gear wasn't that it was necessarily BiS for years. It was the fact you could macro in gear swaps for abilities and situations that made a lot of its gear old/new viable.

Because that would work in this game.

[TheRandomBard]

Y'all are a bunch of crybabies.

[ReplicaX]

Current Highest Endgame Content = Not for everyone. For the ones that do it. Your peers don't help your cause, especially when they come here complaining about it and...

- Clearly Advertise the Sales of turns for greed (buyers are equally at fault) in game.

and/or

Streaming, videos of clears, showing the obvious:
- Usage of 3rd party tools: raid calls and visual aids.

Those that complain about Current Highest Endgame content being too hard. Wait til it's dated and adjusted. Plenty of other things to do besides complain about it here.

Both ends are equally guilty of whining.

What made FFXI unique in its use of gear wasn't that it was necessarily BiS for years. It was the fact you could macro in gear swaps for abilities and situations that made a lot of its gear old/new viable.

And it can stay there. Played that game for 10 yrs and I do not want to see gear swaps in combat for 14. Game is a faster pace in combat anyway and the current macro system isn't designed for it and previous Dev Team responses are against it.

[Amenian]

All of these delicious tears!

Seriously. It affects you in no way, shape, or form how easy it is for other people to clear old content if you've already beaten it. Get over yourself already.

[Berens]

What made FFXI unique in its use of gear wasn't that it was necessarily BiS for years. It was the fact you could macro in gear swaps for abilities and situations that made a lot of its gear old/new viable.

Exactly that's why i don't understand why people complain about FF14 old content getting nerf. I wonder what would poeple complain If SE keep the current difficutly for 2nd coil and just add the nerf 2nd coils which drops the same gears lol.

[SockPoo]

I'm surprised the majority aren't generally unhappy with the nerfs. Shoot me if I'm wrong but, don't most people raid because it gives them a sense of accomplishment? As well as the gear carrying some sense of prestige? Making it easier just greatly diminishes the value of the fight. Raiding is suppose to be the hardest part of the game and should take a great deal of time; it's designed to cater to those looking for more of a challenge. Nerfing it when it's readily beatable seems counter productive.

I feel that people asking for nerfs are misguided. It would be like playing FF7, hacking ruby weapon's abilities and hp so they're weakened, and getting the reward; just so you can go fight emerald weapon (or vice versa). Then you went to everyone's FF7 copy and hacked ruby weapon so it became like yours. Now you've deprived everyone of a good, hard fight. Sure there's still emerald weapon but they have different mechanics and the way you fight and prepare for them is different.

Also no one is saying they want to be a special snowflake. They just want people to clear the fight by dealing with the mechanics properly. That means they earned their victory instead of getting carried by the nerfs.

[StouterTaru]

They also nerfed SCoB by releasing higher ilvl gear, they need to roll that back cause it's total BS.

[Ashkendor]

Exactly that's why i don't understand why people complain about FF14 old content getting nerf. I wonder what would poeple complain If SE keep the current difficutly for 2nd coil and just add the nerf 2nd coils which drops the same gears lol.

The funny part is if they left in the old one and simply implemented an "easy mode" SCoB with the same drops, the players that are crying the loudest about the nerfs would probably still farm in the easy mode instead of the original.