So Second Coil has been destroyed

[Lyrinn]

Eh this is true, I'd like to think you can still die to the 10 second snake "enrage". But they completely took out t6's enrage.

I'll agree with that, there's nothing dangerous in the last phase with the vul stacks gone. Super slug is a dead tactic now since every group can "burn" it and take all the time in the world (provided healers have MP).

Though, I have successfully done "super snake" T1 in DF multiple times so it's hard for me to call even that a proper enrage.

[Luvbunny]

So happy they did this adjustment!! Kudos to developers for always catering to the casual first!! After all, they pay the bills for the rest of us. When in doubts, always make your majority of your consumers happy, forget the minority, all they do is nothing but complaining about everything, every single time.

[AdamFyi]

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Oh cool, I didn't know that. The more you know. xD
However, even though the towers may be considered nerfed, everyone still has to deal with Atomic Ray, Ballistic Missile, Allagan Field, Brainjack, and Homing Missile. It doesn't seem like they touched the damage dealt nor the mechanics by the Defensive Maneuvers, Dreadnaught, and the explosion damage by the Landmines. The boss also doesn't seem to have taken a hit to his cleave and auto-attacks, and his bleed on the MT.

[PotatoTree]

I don't see the issue. No exp'd player would go back to SCoB with a pug group anyway unless they drop crafting gear or their after that last i110 piece they need for FCoB accuracy or something. Even without the nerfs there's no satisfaction in beating 9 month old content. Might as well nerf it.

I don't give two shits when some random Joe Scrub completed his second coils if it's not the world first kill. Would you think highly of him if he beat T7 without nerfs months after release? I'd bet most pro people here would just think he finally found a group that can carry him. Plus there is still savage for the people who want a challenge, so the point is moot anyway. I just want my alt gear/eventual crafting mat farm in SCoB to be as fast and painless as possible.

[Dashuto]

Twenty one pages of whining about the nerf, while the thread about patch notes is only 6 pages large.

Some people simply must have a sickness.

[Garlyle]

What assumptions? It's in the patch notes.

"The damage from Acid Spray's been reduced."

Which could mean it now does anywhere from 10k to 1k. That's a long scale where it can be anywhere from "still fucks you up" to "dangerous enough to still care about" to "yeah it's functionally a non-thing now"

Please actually wait for the servers to come up before attempting to assess the actual severity of these nerfs. All we know is they have been reduced, not if they've actually become something you can completely ignore or not.

[zar]

Twenty one pages of whining about the nerf, while the thread about patch notes is only 6 pages large.

Some people simply must have a sickness.

This thread is nothing more than trolls trolling trolls.

[Kuwagami]

ITT, people clearing FCoB and crying about nerfs in an instance they only use to farm missing gear anyway.

Wake up people, these nerfs mean you'll be able to PUG it with nearly anyone and basically farm the hell out of it until you got all your gear for alts. No need for competent people, just non-braindead people.

and yeah, T9 not changed so the plebian noobs won't get to T10 and farther anyway

[Mitracia]

I am not missing that, as I stated in another reply.
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That would be a great way to annihilate a playerbase I guess. Hell, people would still be stuck in the first coil, not because it wasn't nerfed, but rather because no one does it anymore.

''To bad players as well'' insinuating that they are bad. I could reach the final coil if I wanted. If I wanted to spend 15 hours a week learning the fights up to t9, with a static that raids during the night three times a week. Yuk, got the wrong priorities over there.

But really now, people are challenging SE's philisophy that they have put forth since the beginning? All they are doing is giving a steady push to both players that are ahead and those that are behind. The positions are the same, and those who are complaining right now are compaining over nothing.

[RinKaen]

^^^^^^^^^
I played 6-8 in df for fun. It's nice seeing other people's approach at clearing. Well I say 6-8 but I only went to 7 in a farm party.