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    First, I'm using tanking as an example. I thought that was clear.

    Second, let's say I need 4 cross-class abilities from THM in order to tank on GLA effectively. They come at ranks 2, 4, 6, and 48. Guess which rank I need to get to? The *only* thing that matters is the rank of the highest ability. I thought everyone could at least agree on that....
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    Quote Originally Posted by Val_Rhys View Post
    First, I'm using tanking as an example. I thought that was clear.

    Second, let's say I need 4 cross-class abilities from THM in order to tank on GLA effectively. They come at ranks 2, 4, 6, and 48. Guess which rank I need to get to? The *only* thing that matters is the rank of the highest ability. I thought everyone could at least agree on that....
    The problem is, it's not *required* to tank effectively. It makes it take less effort, but it's hardly required. It doesn't matter anyway as all these complaints are based on ignoring that 1.18 is not the end of the changes to the battle system or classes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mysterytaru View Post
    The problem is, it's not *required* to tank effectively. It makes it take less effort, but it's hardly required.
    Try tanking on any class with only their native abilities. Or make a list of abilities you would tank with on GLA or MRD or PUG without cross-classing at all. You plainly could not tank anything of significance.

    This is getting pedantic and strawman-ish.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Val_Rhys View Post
    Try tanking on any class with only their native abilities. Or make a list of abilities you would tank with on GLA or MRD or PUG without cross-classing at all. You plainly could not tank anything of significance.

    This is getting pedantic and strawman-ish.
    MRD and PGL were only main tanks in Tanaka's version of the game. That game is gone. Dead. As for GLA, I didn't say you didn't have to cross class. I said it's not required to get the higher Rank version of some abilities. They make it less effort, but are by no means required.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mysterytaru View Post
    MRD and PGL were only main tanks in Tanaka's version of the game. That game is gone. Dead. As for GLA, I didn't say you didn't have to cross class. I said it's not required to get the higher Rank version of some abilities. They make it less effort, but are by no means required.
    I will agree with your last comment, sort of. MRDs and PUGs are tanking Deepvoid Slave, but I see your point.

    As far as getting higher rank abilities, they aren't required right now. But as far as game design goes, you either design content that is hard for a player with all cross-class abilities or you make it hard for someone who doesn't (or somewhere in between). One event can't be hard for both types of characters. I think going down this entirely open-ended freedom is going to be a source of a lot of trouble in that regard. But as we know, lots of changes are coming to class abilities, ability distribution, and jobs. So we'll just have to see where everything lands.
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