Let Us Change Skin-Color at Aesthetician

[Edellis]

@Edellis, you're acting like it's a HUGE stretch of the imagination that people in a fantasy realm could change their skin pigment.

What exactly is "not a good idea" about this suggestion?

Fitting it into the game from a lore perspective.

I've already mentioned, this really has little to do with lore to begin with, but lore is just another reason why it's a terrible idea. It's an equally bad idea from a game design perspective. The player being able to automagically change intimate details about themselves on a whim really doesn't make for a good design concept or character creator, and it cheapens the idea of having a persistent character in the first place. Just because it's possible to allow a feature does not mean it's a good feature to have.


It's an MMO, and features like that don't exist in a vacuum just because its your own character. It's the same reason we can glamour swimsuits onto our Warriors but not White Mage outfits. There's a limit to what's acceptable as a gameplay feature and what's excessive from a design perspective. There IS a difference, and you guys should really quit pretending like there isn't. And even if you don't see it that way, i think FFXIV as a whole benefits from the designers seeing it that way.

Huh...? So lore is respectable, as long as it gets only broken for real cash, because otherwise it's sold out too cheaply? Throwing lore out the window for a price is A-okay, in your opinion?

"Broken for real cash" is really being stretched by you here, since Fantasia is the only thing that has such an effect, and the vast majority of traditional "lore breaking" stuff in this game is, ironically, in-game content.

But...since you want to play semantics...

1) It's bought with real cash. Something the VAST majority of subbers wont ever bother with, and i'm talking like > 95%. Especially since your second month gives you a free vial anyway.

2) You're essentially paying for the ability to re-roll your entire character. This isn't a lore feature, it's strictly for the sake of players who are so eager to change their character's appearance, they're willing to pay money to have it done. (After limitless access to the character creator, a freebie and the option for alts.)

So yeah, it's A-OK to me, you're absolutely right. It's A-OK for the opposite reason people get angry at cosmetic items being in the cash shop. It's a feature, that isn't supposed to be accessible more than once, made accessible only by out-of-game means. To the vast majority of players, it's enough of a non-option to not even be a feature.

[BigPapaSmurf]

There is a difference, we're not pretending - we just disagree with you.

I don't think it's a bad decision from a game design perspective at all.

In fact, I think the premise enhances the fantasy of the experience.

And fantasia/broken for real cash isn't a stretch.

It actually cheapens the experience far more than a change in skin-color alone would b/c it's far less plausible from an imagination-perspective in this particular game.

I courageously willed myself into being a girl or little person... yeah, far more understandable.

You're not re-rolling your character, you are the same character especially in the social realm. If a name-change were included so you could be inconspicuous about it, that would be one thing.

Fantasia was given credence in the lore silly as that is. Skin color change would make much greater sense in every conceivable way.

[Meier]

Hairstyle and hair color is a lot easier to change than eye color. With hair color, it's just applying very special kinds of dye, which can ultimately be found in nature and synthesized using alchemy.

Changing eye color would be more akin to a medical procedure than something that our beloved aesthetician can do. I mean, unless you intend for him to dip his scissors in dye and start poking people's eyes out.

Haha well..(I'm a girl posting on my bf account, which explains my hair/beauty rant lol), I have classical length hair, which means..its past my bum RL. Now..if I cut that, it takes up to 3 YEARS AT LEAST to grow back, and my hair grows fast, 1 inch a month, most folks grow a quarter inch per month. By no means is that easy. Also, dying hair is a very complicated process and takes hours and can easily go wrong.

Also, if you dye your hair..it can take yeaaaaars to grow back the virgin color. Wanna have the hair length back instantly? That takes extensions..which require at least 8 hours to install. You could wear a wig, I suppose though.

Now, that being said..changing my eye color takes a total of maybe 1-2 minutes. I wash my hands (Which takes about 30 sec) then I simply insert the contacts into my eyes. Bam, color changed. So actually, in reality..changing your eye color is a LOT easier then hair lol.

Also, I support skin/eye change in the beauty shop, they said we will be able to in the beta forums! Er actually...in a live letter.

http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...808-23-2013%29

[Mayh]

I support this idea. If changing the skin color should be saved for Fantasia, then fine.

Eye color changing though- I was disappointed we didn't get that when Aesthetician first came out.

[Toodles]

This should be an option at the Aesthetician, having to Fantasia for this sole reason is silly.

[Laerune]

Skin colour and eye colour should be added to the Aesthetician, Fantasia should only be used for race and gender change. I doubt this will be added tho, this would mean SE will lose alot of money and that is a big NO NO!

[Naliee]

Many Hair Colors don't go with many Skin Colors.

Please... can we have this?

Grekumah.

I think Yoshi said when Aeshetician was underdevelopment that we'd be able to change skin color too (tanning or something). Correct me if I'm wrong but for some reason I remember him saying something like that.

Edit: Letter from the Producer LIVE Part X Q&A Summary (12/02/2013)

0:50:03
Q: Besides hairstyles, what else can you change?
A: In addition to hairstyle, you can also change your hair color, eyebrows, face paint, face paint color, facial hair, scars, tattoos, and tattoo color. We're still discussing if skin and eye color should be customizable.

[Shikiseki]

I'd be fine with Skincolor and Eyecolor changes but no plastic surgery or gender changing (we got fantasia for that).

Skincolor due to the simple tricks that allows you to tan/pale your skin like irl and eyecolor due to simple contact lenses being available.

[Alukah]

I think Yoshi said when Aeshetician was underdevelopment that we'd be able to change skin color too (tanning or something). Correct me if I'm wrong but for some reason I remember him saying something like that.

Edit: Letter from the Producer LIVE Part X Q&A Summary (12/02/2013)

0:50:03
Q: Besides hairstyles, what else can you change?
A: In addition to hairstyle, you can also change your hair color, eyebrows, face paint, face paint color, facial hair, scars, tattoos, and tattoo color. We're still discussing if skin and eye color should be customizable.

That quote was before they added fantasia to the cash shop, if you want a good advice: don't hold your breath.

[Adrian74]

Ladies and gentlemen.... Worry not!... Patch 2.5 will come with very good news!...

The aesthetician is going to be renamed as... The plastic surgeon! And look forward to its miracles because there will be an option in 3.0 to make lalas breast slider work 'correctly' and create abominations of the nature!