Why durability loss on return is stupid

[Wynn]

The death penalty in this game is a major joke. So much so that I am finding it hard to keep from busting out laughing watching you all complain about it.

[SuzakuCMX]

You know what? He's right.

You can get gear repaired to 100% willy-nilly by offering 6k and standing in front of the repair NPC for an hour.

We need harsher penalties.

I believe losing 10% of your stats permanently should suffice.

[Scape]

It's still not the games fault you are dying tho. YOU the player keeps trying to do the leve on more stars than you can handle.

It's like saying its Gravity fault you keep jumping out of 3rd story window and keep breaking your bones. OMG wtf Gravity why do you keep hurting me.

ya, god forbid anyone want to challenge themselves. And as I said, even on a doable difficulty, sometimes stuff just happens and you die. Who the heck is blaming the game? Just because I don't like what the penalty is doesn't mean I'm blaming anything. The penalty isn't much of a big deal to me, I just don't like it. Maybe I am just to old to think its fun to have to repair 11 pieces of gear at the same time.

[ZachCero]

You know what? He's right.

You can get gear repaired to 100% willy-nilly by offering 6k and standing in front of the repair NPC for an hour.

We need harsher penalties.

I believe losing 10% of your stats permanently should suffice.

Yo, you noticed no one liked your comment, harsher penalties? Yea ok. How about this, Lower the degrade rate to like 2-3 instead of 5-7 everytime. That right there cuts repair costs by half cause no one will be looking for repairs after 5-6 deaths.

With the introduction of this new 45 dungeon everyone and their mama is dying left n right trying to complete this dungeon. The idea some of you had was not wearing your good armor? lol ok wtf is wrong with you people. I can see it now evryone (and their mama too) having 2-3 sets of armor now lol wtfe

[ZachCero]

The death penalty in this game is a major joke. So much so that I am finding it hard to keep from busting out laughing watching you all complain about it.

Again someone who isnt even high enough talking about the gear dmg. Excuse me son, hit 45 (then hit 50 cause no one will want you in thier party for a rank 45 dungeon, retarded I know) then go do this new dugeon before you post man, k lol!

[Ichi]

I think this is fine, in the future however, they should reduce the amount of durability loss for higher level items because i can imagine some grade 6 darkmatter costing like 10k a pop a 15k to put up repairs.

[Jaide]

Here's my personal story - tried out the 45+ dungeon for a day and when I was finished all of my gear was at 0%. The next day I spent over seven hours waiting around in Uldah for all of my gear to get repaired. I offered appropriate dark matter or up to 5k for rewards, and shouted for assistance every 5-10 minutes or so.

Maybe it's just me, but going out and fighting to get back SP from an exp loss death penalty would have taken less time and been a hell of a lot more fun than wasting all my play time standing around in town. The repair NPC won't repair jewelry and was charging up to 30k per item, which is still far too much for a 75% repair.

Maybe the solution is to reduce or remove the penalty for special events like the instanced raids. I rarely die on normal content, but things like this that are meant to take you many tries to clear are just punishing with the current system unless you have every craft at a decent level. I know in certain FFXI events the exp loss penalty was waived.

[ZachCero]

Here's my personal story - tried out the 45+ dungeon for a day and when I was finished all of my gear was at 0%. The next day I spent over seven hours waiting around in Uldah for all of my gear to get repaired. I offered appropriate dark matter or up to 5k for rewards, and shouted for assistance every 5-10 minutes or so.

Maybe it's just me, but going out and fighting to get back SP from an exp loss death penalty would have taken less time and been a hell of a lot more fun than wasting all my play time standing around in town. The repair NPC won't repair jewelry and was charging up to 30k per item, which is still far too much for a 75% repair.

Maybe the solution is to reduce or remove the penalty for special events like the instanced raids. I rarely die on normal content, but things like this that are meant to take you many tries to clear are just punishing with the current system unless you have every craft at a decent level. I know in certain FFXI events the exp loss penalty was waived.

I completely agree! I've been doing the 45 dungeon since it came out pretty much non~stop. I shudder to even think about how much I've shelled out for repairs @ 7-8 k each. I wont low ball the crafters, but trying to get someone to repair my stuff is a pain sometimes.

[Cendres]

So now someone is antisocial because they don't ask for a raise when they are out in the middle of nowhere soloing? Ya lets have everyone wait on you hand and foot and spend what little anima they have or walk for 45 minutes just to raise you. I also have more respect for my LS mates then to ask someone to waste their time and come raise me every time I die. Last 10 or so times I have died, I could have stayed dead there for hours and never seen another person, so its kind of hard to ask people outside of LS if I don't see anyone that can be asked.

This is what is what like in XI. Most people here are XI vets, so now we have them telling us to go the f home because that's how you should play, get used to it. I didn't want to believe it in beta when people were saying XI players would ruin this game, but there we go.

[xhyperx]

It's great to see so many perspectives on the subject. Admittedly, it's not the worst thing in the world...but considering that Leves have been focused on being for solo play more or less, it seems that this durability penalty will be felt most significantly by the lowbie, by new players.

No option in the matter, return when getting attacked by an add, or by doing a leve against a mob family that youre not particularly strong against. The weakened status, and the time limit alone should be penalty enough imho....No one likes to fail leves when you only get 8 per 36 hours. And newbies wont be invited to many parties, and may not have begun crafting skills yet, not to mention by the time they notice their weapon is severely damaged, they cannot change class to do a repair even if they had the skill. Changing class is a penalty during Leve...maybe a repair NPC out at the lowbie Crystals?

There has to be a better happier mid point...between no penalty and penalizing the solo player with durability loss.