Myth Message being used to excluded players

[Amelia_Pond_Behemoth]

How do you prove you have multiple clears? And what's your policy on alts when their main has the clear?

Reading is hard. I already explained my personal criteria in a post a number of pages back, and you're completely wrong. Do you want me to find it for you?

I'd like to take you up on that. Because I seem to remember that people who bought clears get priority over those that know the fight but were just unsuccessful in clearing it yet.

[ThirdChild_ZKI]

Not quite.

For various reasons, it took me plenty of time to clear T5, mainly due to disinterest from FC members, and a huge lack of experience on my server. But I did and it was with a learning party that I had mostly trained up at that point.
Levi Ex - 3/4 DPS, 1 healer new.
Cleared Mog Ex - Everyone new. Same with T6.


Oh, and I was technically undergeared for every one of those. EDIT NOTE: I was i103. I don't even have a relic. Weathered Rosenbogen up til T7

Yes, experience matters, but not nearly as much as you make it out to be. And the whole "i110/HA Weapon" thing, I understand, is simply your personal criteria. But clearly, I've proven it's just as possible without such extremes.

[Melondra]

Cast Med. and Cast. Prat need a I50 Cap put on those 2 dungeon to prevent SR this should get rid of most of the bad behavior on those runs. And I have actually booted players for harassing other new player who have not finished it yet.

[Ellatrix]

How do you prove you have multiple clears? And what's your policy on alts when their main has the clear?



I'd like to take you up on that. Because I seem to remember that people who bought clears get priority over those that know the fight but were just unsuccessful in clearing it yet.

Post #23, linked for your convenience.
http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...=1#post2570209

[Snugglebutt]

Post #23, linked for your convenience.
http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...=1#post2570209

Having the weapon does not prove multiple clears...could of got on first clear, a clear which paid for and/or was carried, a clear of which you could of been laying on the ground dead for the entire run while everyone else finished it. Multiple people have proven how ignorant using a clear is in comparison to actual ability or competence already just like they have proven how ignorant your use of soldiery notice as justification to kick and exclude people. I would not be surprised if you yourself had been carried all the way up onto that pedestal you so proudly look down on others from, even if is not the case it would not surprise me at this stage.

ilvl110 requirement is not evidence that they can clear content themselves and was also extremely easy to get even prior to 2.4 which in itself is not evidence of anything more than they have done ST multiple times using oils and sands to upgrade from 100-110, ST is extremely easy in part due to the nature of having 7 other people in your own group to counter incompetence plus another 16 from other groups to do such too and a large amount of people are carried through it all the time. It is not evidence that they can do coils or anything other than ST and even then does not prove they are capable of doing the fights within ST themselves.

I myself have had to cover other alliance groups because of people being carried in them whether having to clear their adds in time or position adds correctly as well as cover many other mistakes or signs of incompetence. Quite a lot of times I have actually seen people purposefully get killed so that they could respawn and wait outside the fight zone for everyone else to do all the work then they roll on the loot when the boss is dead. I am also not the only one who has seen this and ST is not the only place people are seen doing it.

Your an elitist but your an ignorant one which is worse, one who's ego is so big or potentially fragile you refuse to admit when you are wrong on something. You have been factually proven wrong so many times in here, it's not even funny anymore. A prime example (one of many) is from post #88 on mine in which I called fallacy on something which has been proven fallacy by multiple people, you went on to prove your ignorance by claiming I was wrong and that it was not fallacy when factually it was. You then moved the goal posts like you continue to do when at risk of having to admit you was wrong and changed the context in order to continue avoiding admitting you was wrong.

People have already reduced half the things you said in this thread to ashes and when your not trying to rake up those ashes in an attempt to rebuild and reuse, your busy moving the goal posts like when someone says one comment is factually wrong you will ignore that part and then head down a different path. Changing the subject or trying to alter the context. On this topic, on this subject you have been proven to be ignorant many times so give it a rest already. Honestly talking to you is like talking to a child, your so belligerent, arrogant and ignorant.

This does not however mean your always wrong on everything for example I actually agree with one comment you made in another thread that paying for clears is acceptable in the game, of which I made a long post about it in a previous thread, however on this subject we are currently discussing above and in this thread you have been proven wrong many times, you have been shown to be ignorant on many things being discussed within this one but your ego is not letting you admit your errors or back down when proven wrong. Do yourself a favor and stop trying to wriggle out of the hole you dug for yourself in here.

[Ellatrix]

You're kind of in a bubble and I wonder the skill level of the players you play with. You've done T5 <4 times. You've only set foot in first coil in the last month, and you haven't even touched second coil. You haven't cleared TitanX, IfritX, MogX, RamuhX, or ShivaX.

Why are you trying to somehow speak of content in which you flat out have zero experience in? I guess I see why you're now trying to argue so hard that people without clears should be let in farm parties...

[Amelia_Pond_Behemoth]

Post #23, linked for your convenience.
http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...=1#post2570209

Doesn't prove squat. As Snugglebutt already posted, you could get a HA weapon in a number of scenarios. And you still failed to answer my question regarding your policy on alts where the character does not have the clear, but the player does.

[Snugglebutt]

You're kind of in a bubble and I wonder the skill level of the players you play with. You've done T5 <4 times. You've only set foot in first coil in the last month, and you haven't even touched second coil. You haven't cleared TitanX, IfritX, MogX, RamuhX, or ShivaX.

Why are you trying to somehow speak of content in which you flat out have zero experience in? I guess I see why you're now trying to argue so hard that people without clears should be let in farm parties...

Once again you change the subject in an effort to avoid admitting when your wrong.

[Ellatrix]

Doesn't prove squat. As Snugglebutt already posted, you could get a HA weapon in a number of scenarios. And you still failed to answer my question regarding your policy on alts where the character does not have the clear, but the player does.

Only if I personally know the player. Also as I do a majority of T9 sales on the server, I know who the buyers are - and they don't join my farm parties anyway.

I really don't understand why people with little to no raid experience are trying to debate criteria for making an effective party, when this isn't an activity that they partake in.

Once again you change the subject in an effort to avoid admitting when your wrong.

Avoiding what? I'm not wrong. You are since you have literally not done any content that requires spending more than 30 minutes to learn.

[Mertrodome]

You've done T5 <4 times.

Only slightly related, but how do you know how many times someone has cleared something? Is this info viewable on Lodestone? Would be interested to see how many times I've personally killed various things (only started in 2.3 so "not many" is the answer, haha)

Just curious, I thought it only showed first kill date on there is all