Myth Message being used to excluded players

[NicklasBendtner]

So many groups on my server in the PF have "no sold bonus" "bonus=kick" disclaimers in their information. People are a fan of the bonus for easy content where you can carry players but if they see it in coil 2 then they think its impossible to win.

[Leigaon]

Best bet is just to make your own learning, then move it up to clears and farms in your description. I'll have to do the same thing because I didn't grind 2.4 like a lot of others did and am just getting to Shiva, so I can't join any of these "must have win"

If you're doing this through a roulette or duty finder then that's a different story. There shouldn't be any reason to expect everyone to be use to this content in that sense..but if you put up a clear / farm party then you need to be able to keep up with them. Otherwise, you'll need to join a learning or clear PT.

[ZodMel]

What happen is I'll joined a party T7 in PF which doesn't say that it is a farm, I'll tell them I have made it to the last part of the fight, but just haven't gotten clear, and be kicked. If I say nothing they will find out via myth message. I know the fight down pat and my gear is ilv110. There just isn't anyone doing it anymore that will have people who haven't cleared. I quit the game for a few months when Second Coil was introduced, so I didn't get clear when content is new. So it really has nothing to do with me being deceiving or not knowing fight. I just want to clear the dang thing so I can farm it without people kicking me.

*edit* Also the Shiva EX fight has been out for only two weeks and people won't take anyone who hasn't clear anymore on my server which is complete bull...

I laugh at your misfortune.

[aabe]

You are open to make your own PF groups for things you know.

[rblyell]

I think there should be an option to exclude players from Farm Groups, after clearing it ten times you gain the option to add that as a pre-req in PF.
I find that alot of people want to be carried. They haven't read anything on the fight or watched a video. Then when you try to help explainsuggest, since I am experienced, the new players begin to troll you. This is not always the case but I would say 1 person in 20, will actually want to help clear the content.

Merit System
I understand that new players need clears but there should be an option in DF to que up with the expectation of helping newer players, maybe add an additional bonus? Like a Merit Point system, so many Merit Points gain you a special minion or rare piece of gear or hairstyle. What is the insentive now? Extra 'nerfed' soildery points? There is no real incenstive for experienced players to want to help the new guys. And the new guys could rate the overall experience of the 'Coach'. Helpful? Useless? Rager?

[Ellatrix]

That is a community building statement if i ever heard it.
People like this tend to charge other player for their "help" to clear harder content in game. Does that sound like fun to you?

Don't join farm parties if you're unable to farm. That means you don't join unless you've killed it a few times. Stop wasting other player's time cause you don't wanna spend the time to learn the fight like they did.

[Michizane]

Don't join farm parties if you're unable to farm. That means you don't join unless you've killed it a few times. Stop wasting other player's time cause you don't wanna spend the time to learn the fight like they did.

Not having clear doesn't mean you don't know fight. You have 7 other people who can mess up as well.

[Firepower]

Don't join farm parties if you're unable to farm. That means you don't join unless you've killed it a few times. Stop wasting other player's time cause you don't wanna spend the time to learn the fight like they did.

What if you made it to 1-5% of the fight several times, what makes someone who got the extra 1% any better than the person that didn't? Who says the person that got the clear didn't finish the run on the floor and was the least productive member of the party? The myth message doesn't differentiate between a decent and a poor player because even bad players get clears. In fact I've had more trouble with "Farm" parties being unable to clear content then actual "clear" parties.

[SanjuroXI]

What if you made it to 1-5% of the fight several times, what makes someone who got the extra 1% any better than the person that didn't? Who says the person that got the clear didn't finish the run on the floor and was the least productive member of the party? The myth message doesn't differentiate between a decent and a poor player because even bad players get clears. In fact I've had more trouble with "Farm" parties being unable to clear content then actual "clear" parties.

If you made it to 1-5% several times and didnt clear i'm going to assume you were the problem.

[Ellatrix]

What if you made it to 1-5% of the fight several times, what makes someone who got the extra 1% any better than the person that didn't? Who says the person that got the clear didn't finish the run on the floor and was the least productive member of the party? The myth message doesn't differentiate between a decent and a poor player because even bad players get clears. In fact I've had more trouble with "Farm" parties being unable to clear content then actual "clear" parties.

I don't care because when I build a farm party, everyone has cleared it 10x+. If you haven't even cleared it once, you don't have the necessary experience on how to recover from mistakes, because those do happen often. Everyone makes mistakes here and there, but the mark of a good farm group is that you can pick up and recover and still clear it almost every attempt.

You do not have that level of ability if you have "reached 1~5%" since you were unable to recover from an error.

With that said, I welcome the free 100 soldiery bonus when I am not trying to farm. A pretty nice way to get quick soldiery is to run TitanX in DF with a premade 4 or 5 then just carry it for 116 soldiery.