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    Casper Theghost
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    Rogue Lv 50
    This thread is such a f****ing joke. Bard is OP as hell. It is the single one DPS you can not go without.

    And comparing Goad to TP song is a joke too. Goad allow to make it so that you can wait a bit more before having to use TP song on long fight with no downtime by hitting the first tp starved person, so you can hopefully find a better time to sing, but the bard will have to sing like a canary, goad or not.

    And yeah, Foe requiem is very important too. But the real deal breaker is Ballad, as the whole healing stuff is balanced currently around it. No matter how you look at it, you are not going to accomplish anything relevant without a good bard. You can go without a nin, a mnk, a drg, a blm or a smn. You can not go without a brd.

    Also dps wise, they are, from my experience, 0 to 10% behind best dps in any fight that is not a dummy (so no t8). They pay almost nothing for their mandatory utility.

    If anything, Brd would need a slight nerf, or the game should be balanced in a way that does not literally revolve around them.
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    Staisy Sama
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    Sargatanas
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    Archer Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Remilia_Nightfall View Post
    Foe's Requiem, Ballad, TP song are still extremely useful in tight fights where DPS and Healing checks are present. Goad is not even remotely as powerful as TP song, by the way.
    1. Good Healers don't need Ballad
    2. On single target Foe is worse damage buff than TA - 10% damage up for 30% uptime for mages only VS 10% damage up for 16.7% uptime for everyone in party
    3. Goad is just good enough to prevent 1 melee from beeing TP staved, so if you have only MNK/DRG melee than you don't need a BRD.
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    Reimu Hakurei
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    Quote Originally Posted by Felessan View Post
    1. Good Healers don't need Ballad
    Ok. Thanks for letting us know.

    Ah, FYI - good bards don't need buffs to be top DPS.

    You're welcome.
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    Femke Fisker
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    Quote Originally Posted by Casper View Post
    Bard is OP as hell.
    Now that, is a joke...
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