Could have SE unknowing set FFXIV to fail....

[Vaara]

In FFXI certain jobs were excluded or picked last for content. Puppet-master was objectively worse than all other DPS classes for a good 2-3 years (possibly longer, I stopped playing it at that point). It had nothing to do with bad players at all.

On the other hand, Warrior was objectively worse than Paladin in XIV and it gets fixed within six months, and Dragoon its going to be balanced shortly.

I don't think it has anything to do with the strict trinity system though, just that XIV developers seem to be much more pro-active.

[Alukah]

Misinformation? You yourself just ignored what they wrote.

No, you are not reading what Grekumah wrote, absolutely nothing in that text talks about final coil exclusion.

his is why I have a good feeling you don't do end-game, because it's become common knowledge FCs are excluding DRGs for the higher coils, especially the final 2. So..what misinformation? You asked and got an answer. You should probably actually do end-game, because the topic they replied in mostly started because people started excluding DRGs, thus making the problem more known. Is it really that hard to grasp?

The topic started because people are afraid parties might exclude dragoons, go read the fist post of that thread.

It's not common knowledge, all boils down to YOUR static started excluding dragoons and now you think every single static in every single server is doing the same. Honestly, do you really believe a static will ask a highly skilled and geared dragoon "sorry dude, you have to level up MNK or NIN or get the boot"? DRGs aren't even in that bad of a state atm.

For someone claiming someone else about spreading misinformation, you sure do seem to love twisting people's words. XI is one of the few MMOs that allows you to change your class on the same character which is what makes it more likely to run into certain issues on this subject.

No, you said I didn't play XI so I couldn't say I don't miss being discriminated, I'm telling you XI wasn't the only game with class discrimination.

In FFXI certain jobs were excluded or picked last for content. Puppet-master was objectively worse than all other DPS classes for a good 2-3 years (possibly longer, I stopped playing it at that point). It had nothing to do with bad players at all.

Not according to Tupsi, XI was perfect and absolutely no one was discriminated by class, even tho many XI players in these forums have always said otherwise.

[SpookyGhost]

Honestly, do you really believe a static will ask a highly skilled and geared dragoon "sorry dude, you have to level up MNK or NIN or get the boot"?

http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...=1#post2574974

Yes.

[Fayto]

http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...=1#post2574974

Yes.

On Balmung, no Dragoon has been excluded yet and is still a pretty popular Job. FCs on Balmung value skilled players more.