Question For Dev team: Can you please low the soldiery cost for Animus books?

[Zeke_Anderson]

No need to be like that.
The Animus is harder/longer to get in 2.4 that it was during 2.3 (with hunts), which is completly illogical, even more if you consider the fact that it's a useless and outdated weapon at this point since 110 weapons are really easy to get.

So, if someone is asking to bring back a bit of sense and balance into that relic step, telling him to "suck it up" and that he's "crying" isn't really smart and doesn't contribute at all to the overall subject.

The problem is not getting any better, being nice about it doesn't work.
The excuse of rng being the only hurdle for the welfare cases was a lie and everyone knew it.
I and many many others are sick of it because we know the welfare crowd will not be satisfied until they get a give me item now button and nothing but a striking dummy in coil that triggers a cut scene once you hit it.
They will say other wise but this thread shows it's just an on going lie.

[Fyce]

The problem is not getting any better, being nice about it doesn't work.
The excuse of rng being the only hurdle for the welfare cases was a lie and everyone knew it.
I and many many others are sick of it because we know the welfare crowd will not be satisfied until they get a give me item now button and nothing but a striking dummy in coil that triggers a cut scene once you hit it.
They will say other wise but this thread shows it's just an on going lie.

Being rude doesn't help it either.
But the point is, for that particular case, that the Animus relic weapon is harder to get in 2.4 than in 2.3 (with hunts). Yet, with the Soldiery not being weekly locked anymore, the i110 weapon are becoming the base weapon for everyone.

In short terms, 2.4 made the Animus weapon harder/longer to get and even more useless than before because of the i110 Soldiery weapons.
Someone who isn't fully geared with Soldiery stuff has absolutly no reason to start wasting his/her Soldiery tomestones for a less effective weapon, besides vanity (at the cost of not upgrading the rest of your stuff).

Nobody is asking for a free Animus. What is being asked is to balance the content in a logical order, and not making an outdated weapon harder/longer to get than it was previously.

... but for some reason, some people in this thread are failing at understanding the logic behind that request.

[RiceisNice]

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I can agree the order of progression and the requirements for the current state of relic is still pretty out of order; Getting up to zenith requires a total of 560 tomestones (ilvl90) and a weathered weapon (ilvl100) is 1300, this one being practically a hand-away now with current ST (and lets toss in sands for ilvl 110). I'd be more willing to accept the cut-away if Atma actually had the stats of a ilvl 100...

Yes its comparatively harder, but only because you had an OP'd source of tomes like hunts taken away. Roulettes in return got buffed up that you could reasonably get a book at least once per day, though that's including story and low level roulette which is pretty suffering (versus me reasonably getting 1 per day from hunts pre 2.4.)

Though I can't say that was OP's intention, not when you look at his first post anyway; I didn't skim the topic enough to see any other implications toward this.

If you honestly think tomes are harder to come by you need to step outside of hunt land and see that there are other sources of tomes and they are all 3x as efficient as they once were instead of dwelling on hunts. Books are faster than ever if you do ANYTHING in this game besides hunt. Don't be so I dimensional.

Why are you saying that "Most sources same rewards", like you were to earn as much Myth as you now earn Soldiery? I'm asking, because that's absolutly not true. You earn less Soldiery from overall content. Just look up some comparison charts from 2.3 to 2.4.
Plus these Soldiery have far more uses than Myth had, making them more valuable.

Nobody is crying because hunts aren't as profitable as before, stop putting words in one's mouth. But, if you look at all tomestone sources and the uses of theses tomestones, 2.3 was way easier than 2.4.
And if you add that the Animus is now even more useless due to the i110 weapon being mainstream, you should understand why that's completly illogical.

Old Expert dungeons gave 100 myths, now it's down to 35 soldierly
Brayflox Heroic gave 75 myths, now its down to 25.
New Experts give 50 soldierly.

The way I see it, dungeon rewards for the most apart are the same rates (you needed 20 Brayflox heroics for 1500 myth, 20 brayflox heroics for 500 myth now) for the most part. Comparison of relative experts (now vs before) it'd take 10 runs in 2.4, versus 15 in 2.3.

I mean granted, even if we were to do the rate of conversions for how much we earn, it's unchanged as far as costs of weathered is concerned. But I wasn't capped at 2.2 going into 2.3, so I can't comment on the prices of myth gear or even myth rewards in 2.2 compared to 2.3.

[Fyce]

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My point is: you can't gear yourself up AND buy the Animus book at the same time in 2.4, whereas it was possible to do in 2.3.
Plus, now that i110 weapons are becoming the current weapon base, it's even less interesting to do the Animus.

Currently, there's no point in starting to buy the Animus book if you don't have your full weathered/unweathered set yet, at least for your main class.

[Zeke_Anderson]

Being rude doesn't help it either.
But the point is, for that particular case, that the Animus relic weapon is harder to get in 2.4 than in 2.3 (with hunts). Yet, with the Soldiery not being weekly locked anymore, the i110 weapon are becoming the base weapon for everyone.

In short terms, 2.4 made the Animus weapon harder/longer to get and even more useless than before because of the i110 Soldiery weapons.
Someone who isn't fully geared with Soldiery stuff has absolutly no reason to start wasting his/her Soldiery tomestones for a less effective weapon, besides vanity (at the cost of not upgrading the rest of your stuff).

Nobody is asking for a free Animus. What is being asked is to balance the content in a logical order, and not making an outdated weapon harder/longer to get than it was previously.

... but for some reason, some people in this thread are failing at understanding the logic behind that request.

I totally get it. The first hand out wasn't enough, simple as that.
That it what is being said here with a new excuse. It will be the same when SE rolls out more welfare for the whiners. It will continue to be the same when the welfare crowd hits novus and cries materia costs too much and takes too long to SB.
It will continue to be the same after a novus handout happens and the light grind gets cried about.
Most people saw atma nerf as just the welfares crying getting their way by using the excuse of we don't want a hand out. Thing is the constant crying about this just shows that indeed they do want a hand out. They just want to hide behind a weak excuse until it time to tear up again.
If you cannot commit to the grind get a 110 through ST and be done. Not everything is meant to be obtained by every player.