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  1. #171
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    MercuryD's Avatar
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    Daii Mercury
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    The issue I have with this system is, as a PS3 player, if I tele from, say, E La Noscea to Mor Dhona, if df pops either before the port is finished or mid-port I will likely be forced to withdraw, thereby penalizing me. So, should I just sit in one zone whenever I use DF? How is that fair?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fernehalwes View Post
    While translation is a large part of our job, what is not known by many is that the EN localization team plays a large role in the creation of a lot of in-game terminology and lore which is then localized back into Japanese (with liberties often taken by the Japanese team so that the text might appear more appealing to their target Japanese audience).

  2. #172
    Player MilesSaintboroguh's Avatar
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    Miles Saintborough
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    Quote Originally Posted by winxbloom61 View Post
    this dosnt hurt the people whos trolling if someone is really trolling they dont care about the penality they will just find another way to troll like draging bosses to early and so forth al this does is HURT INNOCENT PEOPLE mainly dps who hav e life outside of a game and does other things while dealing with are 2 hour + ques the only people this dosnt hurt is trolls/tanks and healers

    im sorry but se and people who think this is hurting the ones who are trolling arent to smart trolls will troll some times in new worse ways YOU CAN NOT STOP PEOPLE FROM TROLLING ITS IMPOSSIBLE A TROLL WILL ALWAYS TROLL IN GAME ADDING SYSTEMS TO KEEP TROLLS FROM TROLLING. YOU CANT REALLY EVER STOP PEOPLE FROM TROLLING WITH ANY SYSTEM
    All caps really drives your point across, doesn't it? Also, no one said the system was to stop trolls. It is to cut back on people that want to troll (you really think the average troll is willing to risk being put in time out every 30 minutes?) People want to be able to play content and queue up in a reasonable timeframe without some bored/clueless person constantly withdrawing and holding others back. Before the patch, I never bothered clicking commence because I knew someone would withdraw anyway and most of the time, I was right. Nowadays, I get far fewer withdraws one is saying the new system stops trolling, but helps cut back on it. Noticed how I said trolling was cut back and not stopped?


    Everyone keeps saying how they "got a life" outside the game they need to tend to have yet another "emergency" to deal with. You got business outside the game? You take care of that first. People using the queues as a time to do other things, in game or off game, was a huge red flag that showed that something was terribly wrong; no one should be forced to find other things to do and wait a long time just to do a 5 to 40 minute run of content.

    I am not paying a subscription to sit around praying that I can get into a duty.
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    Last edited by MilesSaintboroguh; 11-04-2014 at 12:36 AM.

  3. #173
    Player Kaze3434's Avatar
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    Rumina Asou
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    Quote Originally Posted by winxbloom61 View Post
    this dosnt hurt the people whos trolling if someone is really trolling they dont care about the penality they will just find another way to troll like draging bosses to early and so forth al this does is HURT INNOCENT PEOPLE mainly dps who hav e life outside of a game and does other things while dealing with are 2 hour + ques the only people this dosnt hurt is trolls/tanks and healers

    im sorry but se and people who think this is hurting the ones who are trolling arent to smart trolls will troll some times in new worse ways YOU CAN NOT STOP PEOPLE FROM TROLLING ITS IMPOSSIBLE A TROLL WILL ALWAYS TROLL IN GAME ADDING SYSTEMS TO KEEP TROLLS FROM TROLLING. YOU CANT REALLY EVER STOP PEOPLE FROM TROLLING WITH ANY SYSTEM
    because caps lock is cool. anyway, the lock out has been working wonders. going into something with a full premade light or full party doesnt get you a strike.
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  4. #174
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    winxbloom61's Avatar
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    Oceanis Thedemonslave
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    how about you stupid healer and tanks stop complain it isnt fine for dps who dont have instant ques u got what 5mins 10 maybe 15 max seriosely SHUT THE HELL UP u dont know if its fine until you have to deal with ques no shorter than 50mins
    fact is we dps already being punished for playing a job we enjoy were punished by having to wait over a hour for a single dungon and most of the time the tanks or healers troll with in the dungon

    we dont need another punishment for doing something while we wait and cant hit enter on time or we get up for a min out of a hour que seriosely
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    Last edited by winxbloom61; 11-04-2014 at 04:27 AM.

  5. #175
    Player Kaze3434's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by winxbloom61 View Post
    how about you stupid healer and tanks stop complain it isnt fine for dps who dont have instant ques u got what 5mins 10 maybe 15 max seriosely SHUT THE HELL UP u dont know if its fine until you have to deal with ques no shorter than 50mins
    fact is we dps already being punished for playing a job we enjoy were punished by having to wait over a hour for a single dungon and most of the time the tanks or healers troll with in the dungon

    we dont need another punishment for doing something while we wait and cant hit enter on time or we get up for a min out of a hour que seriosely
    please, punctuation and spelling. it helps people understand you. anyway, not all of the people saying the lock out is a good thing play healers or tanks. if anything, from the thread and the other one, most tanks and healers hate it.
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  6. #176
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    Quote Originally Posted by winxbloom61 View Post
    how about you stupid healer and tanks stop complain it isnt fine for dps who dont have instant ques u got what 5mins 10 maybe 15 max seriosely SHUT THE HELL UP u dont know if its fine until you have to deal with ques no shorter than 50mins
    -Everyone- had to deal with people withdraw spamming in CT/ST/FL and sometimes Roulettes. Maybe you're better off blaming the people who brought this upon the community?
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    Player SinisterIsBack's Avatar
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    Ardon Voltaire
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    So im not sure if this is a bug or what but I just got penalized for 30minutes for clicking withdrawl ONCE. (friend wanted to cap poetics with me) It says I am penalized for abandoning a duty....but I never set foot in the dungeon
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  8. #178
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    Saerin Zei
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    Quote Originally Posted by winxbloom61 View Post
    QQ
    How about you roll a tank rather then sit here and complain about playing a role 85% of the population plays.

    Perks about being a tank: That's not my problem. Ready check. Use it.
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  9. #179
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    Oceanis Thedemonslave
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    Quote Originally Posted by Asierid View Post
    How about you roll a tank rather then sit here and complain about playing a role 85% of the population plays.

    Perks about being a tank: That's not my problem. Ready check. Use it.
    Sure as soon as Se creates a tank that is worth playing the two we have are completely crappy or holy we should be able to play any job we want without having to care about roles

    in fact the hole story of ff shouldnt have made us do dungons all dungons should be extra for better gear and so forth aka optional

    and while your at it tell them TO CREATE UNCRAPPY HEALERS that dont depend on holy magic

    I play the jobs i enjoy i dont give a damn what role they are that isnt the point though
    the point is this stupid bs punishment just for hitting withdraw shouldnt exist they myswell take away the withdraw button if they going to punish us using the utility when we need to such as when we are crafting or doing a leve or outside of game issues
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  10. #180
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    Adol Giantbane
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    Quote Originally Posted by Camate View Post
    Also, in the event that you queue up to the Duty Finder as a party, if one party member withdraws when matched, it will count as a penalty towards all of the party members. This excludes times when you queue as a complete pre-made party. Withdrawing in these instances will not count towards the penalty.
    The more that I think about this, the less I understand why it works like that. Right now, I can't think of ANY reason it should punish the whole group. What is the point?

    It's not to stop groups fishing for in progress runs because groups cannot join in progress.
    It's not to stop groups from fishing for other teams in an alliance. We can form alliances now and join with them so there's no reason anyone would do this.
    And it's not even to stop trolling. Even if the queue punishes individuals, a group of 3 would each get two attempts to troll the DF per member of the team. The result is a total of 6 attempts to troll. However, those individuals can already, given the current system, troll the queue by themselves 2 times each. This allows them to troll the same number of 6 attempts. So it's not helping there.

    I'm at a complete loss. Why punish individuals for the mistakes of others, what purpose is this supposed to serve?
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    Last edited by Giantbane; 11-04-2014 at 07:33 AM.

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