SE Why Do You Hate Hunts?

[Camate]

Greetings, everyone.

We received a comment from the development team that I’d like to share in regards to the amount of Allagan tomestones that can be earned from content in Patch 2.4.

The amount of tomestones is not only connected with content difficulty and rarity, but they’ve also been adjusted based on the calculations of the total amount yielded from all of the new content released in patch 2.4.

With the addition of the new Allagan tomestones of poetics in Patch 2.4, we’ve made overall balance adjustments to the amounts of tomestones earned, and the following was envisioned for the beginning of Patch 2.4.

• The Hunt would be content where players collect allied notes and enhance their equipment.
• Allagan tomestones of poetics and soldiery would mainly be collected via instanced dungeons and Crystal Tower.

Due to this, in order to fit the content difficulty in Patch 2.4, The Hunt only yields a very small amount of poetics from only S rank marks while soldiery has been set as a bonus, and the main currency to collect for this content is allied notes.

When it comes to the balancing of content rewards, however, after a patch has been released we are continuously checking data for how much each type of content is being played and how many rewards are being earned. Based off of this data we will continue to make adjustments as we move forward.

The current values are not a permanent thing, and we will also continue to make adjustments based off of everyone’s feedback.

[Katsushiro]

The Hunt would be content where players collect allied notes and enhance their equipment. Allagan tomestones of poetics and soldiery would mainly be collected via instanced dungeons and Crystal Tower.

This makes sense, but the Q for CT (at least for me) has been as long as it was pre-2.4, so I don't think it has caught on as the best Soldiery farming area. Yes, with the right raid static, we could potentially cap Soldiery within a few hours, but it seems like so many people had Soldiery equipment by 2.4 that they only want to run ST for the loot, rather than tome accumulation. I think one of each (unmarked, oil, and sand) should be dropped to make it more alluring to repeat at a high level. Maybe even the Onion Knight can make an appearance, since the chances to lot and win on it are still pretty low.

As for Poetics... does the yield really have to be so low? Or can we possibly have a new-player bonus for both kinds of tome?

[Bushido_Brown]

Tomes aside, I honestly just wish B ranks were still worth 5 seals like they used to be and not the 1-a-week lockout they are now so I'd be able to hunt how I want and when I want without needing to be in a party.

Even with the respawn rate for B-ranks being shortened, at only 5 seals it would still take a good while to farm since you have to find and kill them solo, but you could at least farm at your own speed.

Please, completely abolish those daily hunts (there is no fun in waiting an hour for a FATE to pop that's only worth 10 seals, missing out on multiple A-ranks in the process), make that weekly hunt an A rank worth 50 seals (only people with that marked bill get the 50 seal credit, everyone else gets 20, that way parties could help each other hunt their bills), and return b ranks to 5 seals.

[Jacost]

Tomes aside, I honestly just wish B ranks were still worth 5 seals like they used to be and not the 1-a-week lockout they are now so I'd be able to hunt how I want and when I want without needing to be in a party.

Even with the respawn rate for B-ranks being shortened, at only 5 seals it would still take a good while to farm since you have to find and kill them solo, but you could at least farm at your own speed.

Please, completely abolish those daily hunts (there is no fun in waiting an hour for a FATE to pop that's only worth 10 seals, missing out on multiple A-ranks in the process), make that weekly hunt an A rank worth 50 seals (only people with that marked bill get the 50 seal credit, everyone else gets 20, that way parties could help each other hunt their bills), and return b ranks to 5 seals.

Why not just make the B ranks into the daily hunts? That puts a stop to hardcore farming groups monopolizing them, and actually makes the dailies worth doing. Put them up to 8 marks, though.

[Bushido_Brown]

Why not just make the B ranks into the daily hunts? That puts a stop to hardcore farming groups monopolizing them, and actually makes the dailies worth doing. Put them up to 8 marks, though.

Thank you for the input, but I personally would rather do without dailies, being regulated to how much work you can put in when you have the free-time to do so is not fun to me. If the tome payout was removed completely from B-ranks, I can't really see how parties would even bother with them, and they wouldn't be able to monopolize them because of their respawn rate.

[Ferrosovian]

• Allagan tomestones of poetics and soldiery would mainly be collected via instanced dungeons and Crystal Tower.

The current values are not a permanent thing, and we will also continue to make adjustments based off of everyone’s feedback.

Why must one be the main way and the other be sub-optimal way? I don't enjoy running dungeons daily. I do enjoy running hunts with new people, making new friends on the server, and shooting the shit with people I've never met. I make friends while hunting, I don't make friends while doing dungeons. Please bring back the potency to hunts that allows me to actually have the most fun I can while playing your game, and still remain relevant.

[Cadwgan]

Why must one be the main way and the other be sub-optimal way? I don't enjoy running dungeons daily. I do enjoy running hunts with new people, making new friends on the server, and shooting the shit with people I've never met. I make friends while hunting, I don't make friends while doing dungeons. Please bring back the potency to hunts that allows me to actually have the most fun I can while playing your game, and still remain relevant.

Because hunts was a one-shop shop for literally everything, there was zero reason to do anything but hunts for gear.

You can obtain more than enough poetics to cap by running your daily expert roulette, fill the rest with hunts if you enjoy hunting.

[kyrios91]

Why must one be the main way and the other be sub-optimal way? I don't enjoy running dungeons daily. I do enjoy running hunts with new people, making new friends on the server, and shooting the shit with people I've never met. I make friends while hunting, I don't make friends while doing dungeons. Please bring back the potency to hunts that allows me to actually have the most fun I can while playing your game, and still remain relevant.

Well if you do enjoy Hunts... do you enjoy it because of the content OR because of the rewards? Seriously people only care about Hunts since it gives Sands and Oils and people were like "OMG I DONT HAVE TO DO SECOND COIL BECAUSE I SUCK BUT I CAN HAVE GOOD GEARS BY JUST WAITING FOR SOMETHING TO SPAWN AND ZERGING THE HECK OUT OF IT!". Seriously if you want the cool items you gotta do the harder content - that's how progressive MMOs works. SE is kind enough to give the Relic questline for those who prefer grinding than doing endgame content, which gives a really strong weapon when it reaches Nexus.

[Adrian74]

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Just to say, dear sir, your opinions are almost like if you'd take them out from my mind and write them for me. Totally agree with you about the damn hunt, thanks for explaining it to the others... (Seriously, 2.3 was a PATH-BREAKER....2.4 now finally solves it and people whines? Can't understand it. Hunt is what it should have been now, an alternative, just that... NOW IT IS EVEN MORE ENJOYABLE... Because there are less people doing it and it is funnier and interesting to fight. (At certain hours you can enjoy doing your A fights with just one full party or two around)

But it stills being the same, wait for linkshell, teleport, zerg, nothing more. It doesn't even deserve to be called hunt properly, nobody is out there searching at all and exploring Eorzea to find the monsters... They just wait for linkshells, and in the case they find it by casualty then they also post.

[RiceisNice]

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Enjoyable is pretty subjective, though I do agree that hunts were previously OP'd in the rewards they give. In the end though, it's still a pretty stupid implementation that they really never hit a middle ground for. It's an over-glorified world spawn that used to give Overpowered rewards, now it's an over-glorified world spawn that only really gives overpriced rewards (the hunting set glamour goes around 600 seals for one piece last I checked, and dear god why is the twin adder one so bad ugly).

Top that off with users still running into some issues as far as S ranks loading up, or just the hunts in genral being an overall douchebag with their placements for a leveling/new player