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    Wolfandre's Avatar
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    Wolfandre De'asura
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ultimatecalibur View Post
    All i70+ PvP gear is near BiS now in i80 sync.
    Dammit. I was really hoping you weren't right, after putting together most of that tank set. But after a quick couple compares on XIVDB, pretty much this.

    I really didn't want to buy any PvP gear other than the ilvl110 stuff. Guess I'll settle for second BiS until I can get around to getting more Wolf Marks....ugh.

    EDIT: I redact my statement. It actually doesn't make a huge difference except in some slots where, at least in the case of tank gear, that you get to prioritize more crit/det over skill speed. This change only boosts the stats of PvP gear in PvP areas via Morale adjusting individual ilvls. If you have gear that has the same stats as the PvP gear that is already at ilvl 80, this changes nothing for you. All it does is allow people to obtain ilvl 80 for PvP via PvP.

    ....is this logic incorrect? Because I'm doing an in-depth comparison with the Morale ilvl boost in mind, and I'm not seeing too many changes to BiS lists. If anything, there's now a lot of side-grading and different methods to obtain the same thing. Is there something I'm missing?
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    Last edited by Wolfandre; 11-02-2014 at 07:14 AM.

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    Ter'vin Valash
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wolfandre View Post
    ....is this logic incorrect? Because I'm doing an in-depth comparison with the Morale ilvl boost in mind, and I'm not seeing too many changes to BiS lists. If anything, there's now a lot of side-grading and different methods to obtain the same thing. Is there something I'm missing?
    As to my knowledge, this is correct. I mean, all the change does is make Morale on PvP gear raise their ILvL in PvP zones. Aside from possible stat allocation differences, there should be no difference in power between iLvL 80 PvE and PvP gear pieces.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wolfandre View Post
    ....is this logic incorrect? Because I'm doing an in-depth comparison with the Morale ilvl boost in mind, and I'm not seeing too many changes to BiS lists. If anything, there's now a lot of side-grading and different methods to obtain the same thing. Is there something I'm missing?
    Your logic is basically true. No PvP gear piece has any dead stats and now has a full sweet of secondary stats, even the 25 Acc on the Liege sets has a use. Tanks and Healers were the ones who gained the most from the changes because a lot of Dps gear was already crit/det.

    Quote Originally Posted by Stormrider View Post
    I need more vit not any other stat. Healers heal enough. Damaged is screwed up since 2.4 you can go from 5k to 0 in seconds. I think it might be ninjas. But even Dragoons are hitting for 1k on some attacks. So basically you stack all tank accessories you can wear. But is there a calculator to tell me how much vit each piece would have at the i80 sync? Not sure about other Grand Companies flames are lucky to see 4 healers per alliance. It is only going to get worse. I see a few people go out on healer and get obliterated and change to something else.
    All i80+ and (i70 PvP) Fending/Divine War accessories give Vit +13 when levelsynced for Frontlines.
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    Saerwen Celeste
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    Help! I'm so confused on what's BiS for Scholars in Frontlines. I bought the PvP ilvl 90 body and feet thinking it was a good purchase...but is the ilvl 70 stuff better? How can that be, even with the morale boost? I'm ilvl 110 with my PvE gear so i have access to the good stuff...should i buy any PvP gear for Frontlines only? Wolves Den doesn't interest me at all.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alurwen View Post
    Help! I'm so confused on what's BiS for Scholars in Frontlines. I bought the PvP ilvl 90 body and feet thinking it was a good purchase...but is the ilvl 70 stuff better? How can that be, even with the morale boost? I'm ilvl 110 with my PvE gear so i have access to the good stuff...should i buy any PvP gear for Frontlines only? Wolves Den doesn't interest me at all.
    Depends on your priorities. If you are prioritizing Crit the Direwolf Robe of Healing would be better, if you are prioritizing Det the Warwolf Biauld of Healing would be better, in the long run the Elklord Robe (i110, Rank 44 minimum) is BiS.

    Expected (untested) ilevelsync stats for the 3 pieces:
    Warwolf Biauld of Healing (i70): Det +21, Crit +21
    Direwolf Robe of Healing (i90): Det +17, Crit +30
    Elklord Robe (i110): Det +20, Crit +30
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