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  1. #1
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    Ultimatecalibur's Avatar
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    Kakita Ucalibur
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    The DpS number is the Auto-Attack Power divided Auto Attack Delay not really an important number, but it should end up syncing down to 14.67. Physical and Magical Damage on the other hand are synced down to 44/33(DoW) and 44/66(DoM) for all weapons over i80 this is identical to what the i80 weapons have. Stats sync down to the Primary and Secondary Caps.

    A High Allagan Axe would sync down to PD 44 MD 33 Str +27 Vit +30 Acc +23 Parry +33.
    The Axe of the Crags is PD 44 MD 33 Str +27 Vit +30 Det +16 Parry +33. A HQ Tremor Axe will have identical stats to this.

    BiS wise, Determination, Critical Hit Rate and Skill Speed are the only secondary stats that matter in PvP and Frontlines.
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    Melfina Amastacia
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    Excalibur
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    Lancer Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Pequenisimo View Post
    So, I'm wondering about Weapon scaling. the DPS of weapons does not scale the same as the Stats of the weapons. Here is an example:
    Titan HM weapon i80
    DPS = 14.67
    27 str, 30 vit, 33 parry

    High Allagan Axe i115
    DPS = 17.67
    45 str, 53 vit, 46 parry

    If you scale i115 to i80 at that ratio the High Allagan would become:
    DPS = 12.29
    31 str, 36 vit, 32 parry

    So..... does it scale directly to ilvl giving High Allagan much lower DPS and higher stats?
    or is it scaled to DPS giving High Allagan equal DPS and much higher stats?

    Either way, the DPS and the Stats do not scale equally with ilvl and makes it hard to choose the BIS weapon.
    Actually, you'd be wrong. DPS is derived from physical damage, you don't sync it on its own. DPS on a given weapon is Physical Damage divided by 3. You can multiply that number by the delay to get the auto attack number listed on the tooltip as well.

    And as Ultimate showed, the WD and Primary Stats sync down to the same as the other i80 weapons.
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    Last edited by ispano; 07-12-2014 at 11:00 AM.

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    Pequenisimo Dereino
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    Okay thanks
    That makes it a lot easier if I just have to pick a weapon with the secondary stats I want!
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    Pande Monium
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    Odin
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    Alchemist Lv 60
    Ninja:

    Weapon: Cleavers of crag - Dreadwyrm Daggers - Relic (crit/det) - Any pvp weapon
    Head: Allagan visor of striking (T4) - Dreadwyrm Circlet of Scouting (t11) - Arachne bandana of scouting (craft WVR 4 stars)
    Body: Fuma Kuruma (CT 4th) - Wheatered Gloam tabard (soldier 825) - Saurian Shirt of striking ( LTW 3 stars)
    Hands: Allagan Gauntlets of Striking (T2) - Batsight Kote (rank 34) - Batliege Kote (rank 42)
    Waist: Allagan Tassets of Striking (T4) - Batliege Kawa-obi ( rank 41)
    Legs: Dyrewolf Skirt of Striking (8250 seals) - Ironworks Brais of Scouting
    Feet: Saurian boots of striking (ltw 3 stars) - Batliege Sune-ate (rank 41)


    Jewel:
    Neck: Direwolf Choker of aiming (3750 seals) - Hellwolf Choker of aiming ( 5625 seals) - High allagan Choker of aiming (T8)
    Earrings: (Not a viable full crit/det. You have to choose acc - det/crit) Tremor earrings of Aiming (acc 16 - det 8 / Titan Ext) - Hero's earrings of aiming ( acc - crit / lvl 90 dungeons) - Weathered auroral earrings (17 acc - 12 crit / soldiery) - dreadwyrm Earring of aiming ( 15 acc - 15 det/ T10)
    Bracelet: Bracelet of the Divine Light (ilvl 80 dungeons) - Inferno bangle of aiming ( Ifrit Ext) - Dreadwyrm Bracelet of aiming (T11)
    Rings: Ring of Divine Light (ilvl 80 dungeons) - Hero's Ring of aiming (ilvl 90 dungeons) - Werewolf ring of Aiming ( rank 40)

    At this moment i am using this build: http://ffxiv.ariyala.com/P7QQ
    It's not perfect, becuase i path the cheap relic and am get lights.
    I want change one ring when i reach rank 40 (actually rank 37) and pants the next week when i get more poetics. And i pray RNGesus to see "dreadwyrn bracelet of aiming" :/

    The perfect build: http://ffxiv.ariyala.com/P7QW

    I am open to suggestion or changes to improve this set.
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    Last edited by rappa; 01-18-2015 at 09:29 AM. Reason: 1000 limits :/

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    K'atya Jhamei
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    Any hint as to which accessories are BiS?
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    Kakita Ucalibur
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shake0615 View Post
    Any hint as to which accessories are BiS?
    Depends on which main stat and tertiary stat (Crit/SkS/SpS) you want to prioritize. Healers might want extra Vit to survive longer and Tanks may want to go with Str gear to up their damage. There are a lot of accessories that have "dead and semi-dead" secondary stats and very few perfect (+Det/+Crit, +Det/+SpS, or +Det/+SpS) accessories for some stats. Intelligence has a full +Det/+Crit set but only 2 +Det/+SpS accessories. Vitality has 1 +Det/+Crit and 1 +Det/+SkS. Strength is missing a neck and a ring for +Det/+Crit and only has neck and a ring for +Det/+SkS. Mind only has 2 +Det/+Crit rings and short a +Det/SpS ring. Surprisingly a large number of EX Primal drops are within these groups.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ultimatecalibur View Post
    Depends on which main stat and tertiary stat (Crit/SkS/SpS) you want to prioritize. Healers might want extra Vit to survive longer...
    So for a tank earring for SCH would Weathered Noct Earrings be a decent choice since I can get +Vit and +Crit? The tank ear options usually have Parry and Skill Speed in addition to Vit, which aren't useful to me. I never bother min-maxing so I'm not sure whether this trade-off is generally considered "worth it."
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    Vittorino Saggio
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    Cactuar
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    Your healing set is one dimensional. Idk what stats you're trying to prioritize. But it does not favor SCH in anyway unless you're favoring SS which isn't a bad thing, but still off. sorry fix it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vittorino View Post
    Your healing set is one dimensional. Idk what stats you're trying to prioritize. But it does not favor SCH in anyway unless you're favoring SS which isn't a bad thing, but still off. sorry fix it.
    Det is being prioritized (If this is not appropriate I apologize). I originally intended to have a +Det/+SpS and a +Det/+Crit, but there are only 3 slots (Weapon, Head and Hands) with +Det/+Crit gear (the pieces with an asterisk on them) and Waist only has +Det/+Deadstat and +Crit/+SpS pieces.

    Quote Originally Posted by Shake0615 View Post
    So for a tank earring for SCH would Weathered Noct Earrings be a decent choice since I can get +Vit and +Crit? The tank ear options usually have Parry and Skill Speed in addition to Vit, which aren't useful to me. I never bother min-maxing so I'm not sure whether this trade-off is generally considered "worth it."
    Decent, with the Direwolf(Rank20)/Hellwolf(Rank30) Earrings of Fending being slightly better, if you think 188 hp per piece (940 hp total for vit 5 pieces) is worth it.
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    Last edited by Ultimatecalibur; 07-13-2014 at 05:22 AM.

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    Fun fact.
    Healer gear i100+ doesnt get its acc Sync'd down (someone posted above that you dont need acc, that is false)
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