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  1. #31
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wolfandre View Post
    ....is this logic incorrect? Because I'm doing an in-depth comparison with the Morale ilvl boost in mind, and I'm not seeing too many changes to BiS lists. If anything, there's now a lot of side-grading and different methods to obtain the same thing. Is there something I'm missing?
    Your logic is basically true. No PvP gear piece has any dead stats and now has a full sweet of secondary stats, even the 25 Acc on the Liege sets has a use. Tanks and Healers were the ones who gained the most from the changes because a lot of Dps gear was already crit/det.

    Quote Originally Posted by Stormrider View Post
    I need more vit not any other stat. Healers heal enough. Damaged is screwed up since 2.4 you can go from 5k to 0 in seconds. I think it might be ninjas. But even Dragoons are hitting for 1k on some attacks. So basically you stack all tank accessories you can wear. But is there a calculator to tell me how much vit each piece would have at the i80 sync? Not sure about other Grand Companies flames are lucky to see 4 healers per alliance. It is only going to get worse. I see a few people go out on healer and get obliterated and change to something else.
    All i80+ and (i70 PvP) Fending/Divine War accessories give Vit +13 when levelsynced for Frontlines.
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    Saerwen Celeste
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    Help! I'm so confused on what's BiS for Scholars in Frontlines. I bought the PvP ilvl 90 body and feet thinking it was a good purchase...but is the ilvl 70 stuff better? How can that be, even with the morale boost? I'm ilvl 110 with my PvE gear so i have access to the good stuff...should i buy any PvP gear for Frontlines only? Wolves Den doesn't interest me at all.
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  3. #33
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alurwen View Post
    Help! I'm so confused on what's BiS for Scholars in Frontlines. I bought the PvP ilvl 90 body and feet thinking it was a good purchase...but is the ilvl 70 stuff better? How can that be, even with the morale boost? I'm ilvl 110 with my PvE gear so i have access to the good stuff...should i buy any PvP gear for Frontlines only? Wolves Den doesn't interest me at all.
    Depends on your priorities. If you are prioritizing Crit the Direwolf Robe of Healing would be better, if you are prioritizing Det the Warwolf Biauld of Healing would be better, in the long run the Elklord Robe (i110, Rank 44 minimum) is BiS.

    Expected (untested) ilevelsync stats for the 3 pieces:
    Warwolf Biauld of Healing (i70): Det +21, Crit +21
    Direwolf Robe of Healing (i90): Det +17, Crit +30
    Elklord Robe (i110): Det +20, Crit +30
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    Is the original post still up to date? I'm trying to figure out what would be BiS for a WHM running FL. Similar tot he poster above me but for a WHM. According to the first post, no PvP gear is used at all, it's all PvE/crafted gear for both SCH and WHM.
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    Sorry, the list is seriously out of date and was original made around the start of 2.3 when PvP gear was a single secondary + Morale.

    But from what I can tell the Det/SpSp BiS for WHM would be the following:

    Swanliege Cane or Thyrus Novus/Nexus (Det/SpSp)
    Swanliege Hood or Swangrace Hood
    Swanliege Coat
    (Augmented) Ironworks Gloves of Healing
    Swanliege Belt
    Swanliege Hose or (Augmented) Ironworks Slops of Healing
    Dreadwyrm Shoes of Healing (Crakows of the Divine Harvest make a decent filler only loosing 4 Det compared to the dreadwyrm)

    Accessory wise the Vit Det/Crit accessory set is your best bet.

    Hellwolf Earrings of Fending
    Werewolf Choker of Fending
    Hellwolf Bracelet of Fending
    Hellwolf Ring of Fending
    Vortex Ring of Fending
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ultimatecalibur View Post
    Accessory wise the Vit Det/Crit accessory set is your best bet.

    Hellwolf Earrings of Fending
    Werewolf Choker of Fending
    Hellwolf Bracelet of Fending
    Hellwolf Ring of Fending
    Vortex Ring of Fending
    Won't argue these except to point out that the Hellwolf, Direwolf, AND Warwolf wrists slots all have the same stats and will sync/Morale scale appropriately. Can swap out any of these to get the same effect in Frontlines.
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  7. #37
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    Hellwolf will Morale sync to +10 Det/+14 Crit. Direwolf will Morale sync to +9 Det/+14 Crit and Warwolf will Morale sync to something like +9 Det/+11 Crit. They end up as nice fillers until you hit 30, but Hellwolf is defiantly BiS.
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    Last edited by Ultimatecalibur; 12-01-2014 at 11:36 AM.

  8. #38
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    Thanks for the update on this, extremely helpful.
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    Are there caps on main stat for frontlines? Like, if I cap STR with PVP points on MNK/DRG, do I really need it? Will it be useless after a certain number?
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    Nel Synestra
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    Can anyone really confirm ACC in FL, because im sitting with base 341 and i have never missed a single hit. This why im purely stacking CRIT/DET for burst while trying to avoid SS as much as possible.
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