SP nerfed. We were lied to.

[fmonkey13]

From what i can tell in the short time i have played the patch. Is that people with limited time to play have been screwed. Especially if the play slow because of the limited time to play. The combo of the lower Exp gain for DOW and DOM and the Gear damage from dying, make it very hard to take risk and gain worth while EXP. So that somewhat sucks.

However, the new EXP for crafting and gathering is awesome. Especially if you use the bonuses you can purchase from the grand companies.

This being said. You will never make every body happy. Personally i liked the old way for exp for dom and dow better, but will learn how to take advantage of the new system. But i love the new system for gathering and crafting.

Plus this is the first attempt at the new system, i am sure it will be tweaked and improved upon.

Rember after all this game is basically a extended BETA. Untill the PS release that is.

[Seirra_Lanzce]

I absolutely HATED FFXI because of the nerfed lvling process and utter lack of time available to actually explore the game due to this problem. Now they've gone and done the same thing to FFXIV. As a casual gamer who has a real job and a real life, I expect to get the most out of my time playing. However, with the changes patch 1.18 brought, this is clearly not going to happen. I played for three days off and on following implementation of the patch and am sorely disappointed in just about every change made, all save for the auto attack feature. Leves are incredibly gimped. SP for grinding is atrocious. SP for quests are somewhat OK, however those that you actually get decent SP from take far too long, and when considering the anima cost to actually complete them - a total waste of time and energy.

I'm sorry, but any game that requires a month to gain 4 levels/ranks, whatever, clearly is not worth playing, at least not for those of us with relatively limited time - and at the rate that things have gone since implementation of the patch, I think this is going to be the norm.

FAIL, Square Enix - You should stop listening to what your developers THINK the players want, and actually listen directly to the players for a change. The game as it is now, I will not pay a single dollar per month to play.

Hey bro, i just hit 2 levels within 2 days and as casual as you are, even today i have few more sp to go around 60k which i can be done in 2-3 days in 3-4 hours max.

[Sephr]

What's the rush to level up anyway? There's not a whole lot to do right now anyway <-<

Just chill out a bit, it'll get better with the next few patches as we get more alternatives to guild leves. Here's hoping things like chocobo escorts and hamlet defence provide some juicy exp.

[Seirra_Lanzce]

What's the rush to level up anyway? There's not a whole lot to do right now anyway <-<

Just chill out a bit, it'll get better with the next few patches as we get more alternatives to guild leves. Here's hoping things like chocobo escorts and hamlet defence provide some juicy exp.

i want my Alphine war-jacket.

[alexi14]

So who here thinks they deliberately lied to us? Or do you think it was an unintentional lie?

[TheVedis]

So who here thinks they deliberately lied to us? Or do you think it was an unintentional lie?

there was no lie, people just dont wanna try something new

[SuzakuCMX]

So who here thinks they deliberately lied to us? Or do you think it was an unintentional lie?

I don't understand, 3 of your highest classes are DoH/DoL and you think SP got nerfed....

[Raze]

there was no lie, people just dont wanna try something new

^^^ this here

Can this thread die now? Can't the mods see this is just a complain train trollbait thread?

[Abriael]

So who here thinks they deliberately lied to us? Or do you think it was an unintentional lie?

As many people explained quite clearly already (while you and some other clueless newbs that didn't even fully experience the leveling curve before or after the patch refuse to listen), there was no lie. Skilling up has not been nerfed.

It's that simple, and plugging your ears won't change it.

[Kensei]

Very well. Please grind 5-6 hours a day NON-STOP, no afks, no brbs, and grinding on the correct ranked monsters. After 8 months, please come back and tell us the results.

You are not getting the point. My results of 8 months of non-stop grinding post-patch are irrelevant. The point is any kind of activity to get SP post-patch would have taken less time pre-patch for the same amount of SP because they reduced SP gains which slowed down ranking up which Yoshi said he wouldn't.

Then, and only THEN, can you say that Yoshi-P has lied to you. Unless you come from the future, I believe that your claim cannot hold true in such a context.

You did not understand what I said. Read the above answer.

At this rate, I would recommend you rename your topic title to, "SP nerfed for guildleves and behests. A small percentage of the community believed they were lied to."

It has already been discussed to death in previous pages that SP gains are lower in every way, not just guildleves and behests. Both the average and the cap amount of SP that can be received per kill has been significantly reduced. Quests might seem like they give a lot of SP but when you take into account the amount of time it would take tot complete them you are better of grinding.

SP gains is measured in SP/hour, the amount of SP you get in the space of one hour, not for kills or activites that seem to give high individual SP. For example if you kill mobs that give you 400 SP but take 1 minute to kill you would make 24,000SP per hour while if you kill mobs that give you 200 SP per kill but take only 20 seconds to kill you would make 36,000SP an hour. Because SP gains have been lowered SP/hour has been reduced post-patch which means we were lied to.

Those who say Yoshi did not lie and that he just balanced the SP don't realize that slower ranking up process = nerfed ranking up process. Like I have said already, if he had reduced leve, grind and behest SP but buffed other ways to keep the achievable sp/hour pre-patch the same then and only then would he had not lied.