SP nerfed. We were lied to.

[whoopeeragon]

This is what he said "I don’t want there to be a huge loss of skill points imposed for dying, or for players to have to grind 5–6 hours a day for 8 months to get to the high ranks. "


It may not be for 8 months but we will now have to do exactly that. Grind groups were very rare before the patch and now it's the only viable option.

Very well. Please grind 5-6 hours a day NON-STOP, no afks, no brbs, and grinding on the correct ranked monsters. After 8 months, please come back and tell us the results. Then, and only THEN, can you say that Yoshi-P has lied to you. Unless you come from the future, I believe that your claim cannot hold true in such a context.

At this rate, I would recommend you rename your topic title to, "SP nerfed for guildleves and behests. A small percentage of the community believed they were lied to."

[Kensei]

Very well. Please grind 5-6 hours a day NON-STOP, no afks, no brbs, and grinding on the correct ranked monsters. After 8 months, please come back and tell us the results.

You are not getting the point. My results of 8 months of non-stop grinding post-patch are irrelevant. The point is any kind of activity to get SP post-patch would have taken less time pre-patch for the same amount of SP because they reduced SP gains which slowed down ranking up which Yoshi said he wouldn't.

Then, and only THEN, can you say that Yoshi-P has lied to you. Unless you come from the future, I believe that your claim cannot hold true in such a context.

You did not understand what I said. Read the above answer.

At this rate, I would recommend you rename your topic title to, "SP nerfed for guildleves and behests. A small percentage of the community believed they were lied to."

It has already been discussed to death in previous pages that SP gains are lower in every way, not just guildleves and behests. Both the average and the cap amount of SP that can be received per kill has been significantly reduced. Quests might seem like they give a lot of SP but when you take into account the amount of time it would take tot complete them you are better of grinding.

SP gains is measured in SP/hour, the amount of SP you get in the space of one hour, not for kills or activites that seem to give high individual SP. For example if you kill mobs that give you 400 SP but take 1 minute to kill you would make 24,000SP per hour while if you kill mobs that give you 200 SP per kill but take only 20 seconds to kill you would make 36,000SP an hour. Because SP gains have been lowered SP/hour has been reduced post-patch which means we were lied to.

Those who say Yoshi did not lie and that he just balanced the SP don't realize that slower ranking up process = nerfed ranking up process. Like I have said already, if he had reduced leve, grind and behest SP but buffed other ways to keep the achievable sp/hour pre-patch the same then and only then would he had not lied.

[Abriael]

It has already been discussed to death in previous pages that SP gains are lower in every way, not just guildleves and behests.

No. People with a lot more experience than you told you quite clearly that they are not, and you chose to plug your ears, because that fact takes the ground off from under your petty and libelous accusations to a developer.

By now, you've just become a broken record chanting "I'm right because I say so!". Luckily for us all, things don't magically become true just because you repeat them enough times.

There's nothing more funny than someone that didn't even experience half the leveling curve trying to teach everyone how that leveling curve is.

Here in Italy we have a definition for someone behaving like you: "mente sapendo di mentire". I'll let you google it.

@TeVedis: It's between 3 and 4 hours, actually

[Emonzaemon]

No. People with a lot more experience than you told you quite clearly that they are not, and you chose to plug your ears, because that fact takes the ground off from under your petty and libelous accusations to a developer.

By now, you've just become a broken record chanting "I'm right because I say so!". Luckily for us all, things don't magically become true just because you repeat them enough times.

There's nothing more funny than someone that didn't even experience half the leveling curve trying to teach everyone how that leveling curve is.

Here in Italy we have a definition for someone behaving like you: "mente sapendo di mentire". I'll let you google it.

@TeVedis: It's between 3 and 4 hours, actually

I agree with this post.

Going on, I'd like to say I feel that when someone says that something will remain unchanged, it does not mean that they won't touch anything, it could very well mean that it's still a brisk pace to moderate. I think his intent was to say that it wouldn't be an epic marathon like some games have been in the past (See FFXI pre-book). It would still be a fair pace but it wouldn't be an insane halt on progress. I don't think it is, I played yesterday and felt like it was only a slightly slower pace, but still manageable considering the amount of effort I put in, and with what people have said on here, I do believe that it will be manageable in future ranks too.