SE Please Stop. Dialogue that Presumes My Sexual Orientation Breaks Immersion.

[Seraphyna]

I used the word "some" in my post for a reason so you can't just put the 2 parts together and act like they contradict. Saying I don't speak for all women doesn't mean that I don't speak for some.

Secondly, I did read the dialogue and still felt the same way. Sorry, at least for today, you don't get to tell me how I should feel or why I should feel it. And I pray it stays that way too. Yours is a very naive view of the world.

And we could say the same thing about yours.

[Mugiawara]

Come back from Burger King and this is still here?
Mods must get a kick out of this. -Sips Shake; Mmm yep.

EDIT - That broke your immersion of all things?
Snowmen in Ifrit says hi, the irony is real...Snow man....Hell...fire...

At the end of the day, you should really just move on in life. I know your hurt or something...I think?
But you need to relax lol. Everything is going to be okay. Just pretend it never happened if it helps.
Didn't realize we all stepped into Tumblr with this... I guess feminist nonsense. I don't even know...
Just going to drink my shake here.

[VesperValveto]

#GamerGate #NotYourShield #FullMcIntosh

[Snugglebutt]

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You haven't got a clue what your talking about...

Kan-E-Sama takes a vast amount of actions by her choice to do things that impacts everyone in the virtual world they live in, the admiral does in fact leave the office and fights with the hero in battles like with leviathan storyline plus has taken actions which shaped the world greatly, Minfilia is the heroes leader, the protaganist does what Minfilia tells you to regardless of if your a male character and she is one of the strongest women in the game even if that strength is not battle related using weapons. Yuguri, also a strong independent women leading her people, fighting alongside you and fighting without you in the game to achieve her own goals and that of her people.

Minfilia makes choices without your help constantly, your just one of the people she needs help from and all the people under her have active roles getting assigned tasks and being told what to do prior to your joining and after. Half of the members of Scions are female and strong independent, good at fighting women too. Another example is even off the top of my head the rogue female NPC by the name of V'Kebbe just kicked a lot of guys asses in a quest I did today including her male leaders ass for eating her sandwich when he did not realize it was hers.

Do not also forget that all those women are some of the most powerful characters in the world of which the protagonist is living in. There are many more examples of strong independent women who can not only hold their own in fighting but also are in extremely high positions within the world leading men and women actively, how easily you also forgot about how important and how active these female leaders were during the fall of dalamud which is shown clearly in the opening movie. These women were the ones giving the instructions, leading the people and making the tough choices.

Your post in here is the most ignorant one in this thread so far on the subject and as for the thread itself...mountains being made from molehills, a couple quests are not exactly how the OP wants? Too bad, not everything in the game has to be exactly how you or the OP want it and as others have stated it seems the problem she really has with that quest is her own perception which is wrong. In her example her female character is not hitting on the female NPC's, not chatting them up or trying to get laid in the quest given as an example and the dialogue does not imply that she is.

She could be potentially perceived as coming across as slightly homophobic because of her demand to remove what she perceives as potentially homo-erotic content from sight or more specifically from impacting her character. Even if she is not being homophobic of which I chose that word because it is quite unlikely that she is such, I did so in order to show just because you or I might have a perception on something does not make that perception always right and in this case on the example she gave it is her perception that is wrong and her just superimposing her own insecurities on dialogue that does not do what she claims.

Yes my character does other things that I wouldn't do. But none of those other things make me feel like SE thinks this is a "boys only" game.

If you think anything like SE thinking this game 'boys only' the problem is with you not the game, your perception is twisted by your own real life insecurities which your projecting onto the game despite as many other women and men have said in here it is your perception of the quest in your example which is wrong. The puff puff example is also not a great example because the joke (which came from Dragon quest series) is making fun of people who think those NPC's are talking about something they are not, making fun of how some people's pervy mind jumps to wrong assumptions about the women and what they are offering, you just get some puff puff which is supposed to make you feel silly for presuming that was going to get laid or see something else.

You also cannot pull the immersion nonsense because most of the things peoples characters do in game within quests or story progression is not something they might have chosen to do had they been given the choice regardless of what gender play as and I play as both using two different characters, the story in this game is linear, it is not a choose your own adventure book, it is not real life and even if was a choose your own adventure style book you still would be limited to doing certain things in order to progress the plot despite not always agreeing with how the plot progresses. Like I said, your making mountains out of molehills and whats worse is your making those mountains from wrong assumptions and perceptions with dialogue that does not imply or do what you think it does.

[Anarnee]

/: I don't see why being a femme would make this scene any different... As a girl the quest didn't bother me at all.

[LunaHoshino]

Even when Thancred was in distress, he was still in a position of power. He was chosen because he was strong.

What? You're absolutely wrong. He was chosen because he ran himself ragged to the point it made him weak and therefore vulnerable to influence.

If you actually pay attention to his character at all, he spends a lot of time worrying that he's not up to par compared with the other Scions-- in other words, that he isn't strong.

[Sapphic]

OP has a point. Imagine what it is like for a female player, having their character forced into various scenes where you either ogle ladies or get involved in sexually-suggestive scenes with them. It breaks character, it's awkward and arbitrary, and the game just doesn't seem to be aware of the player/character at all in such scenes.

All OP did was simply make an observation, and was met with hostility. I guess I should just be thankful no one's calling OP a "game-hating social justice warrior"...

No it doesn't, and I'm female,

So yep, well done there thinking all of us are the same.

[Sapphic]

You haven't got a clue what your talking about...

Leaders don't lead from the vanguard either, as they are , generally, too important to lose to "heroics". Minfillia does the planning and leads from her office. The others run states. Too important to risk, the rest do the actual fighting at the front lines. Minfillia does rely on us quite a bit because with the story we have proven that it is justified and that we can do "impossible" tasks.

So I agree with you there Snuggle.

[Felis]

The Duel Personalities Quest is the most recent example. Why is my female character dropping to one knee beside the NPC to check out the "Miqo'te beauties?" I was going to suggest different dialogue for male/female characters in these situations but I think that could still be an issue. Maybe we can find some other solution?

Thanks!

You mean something like this?



You didn't get the last part of the text if your character was male

[HakuroDK]

I'm a gay man as well. During that mentioned quest, I was just like "Oh boy, these guys are assuming that I'm some good judge of women. They're idiots anyway, so I'll just humor them."

Really, the two guys in the quest are a bunch of shallow idiots who don't know any better, and I think that's the point. It didn't bother me at all and was almost kinda funny just how impressionable those two fools really are.