[Pole] Do you want to see the summoner class reworked?

[Akiza]

All reworking the Summoner requires is to remove the Arcanists and have the Summoner be it's own job like Dark Knight and other 3.0 Jobs. Give the Summoner Hyur Highlander Size Egis that resemble the Primals as Pets with Hard Mode Primal abilities and Mega Nuke AoE Bursts. Give the Summoner Dark Elemental move set for sustained damage secondary damage.

[Delily]

All reworking the Summoner requires is to remove the Arcanists and have the Summoner be it's own job like Dark Knight and other 3.0 Jobs. Give the Summoner Hyur Highlander Size Egis that resemble the Primals as Pets with Hard Mode Primal abilities and Mega Nuke AoE Bursts. Give the Summoner Dark Elemental move set for sustained damage secondary damage.

I'm impressed, it took over 70 pages of posts to realize Akiza has been trolling this entire time. Well played.

[Dyvid]

All reworking the Summoner requires is to remove the Arcanists and have the Summoner be it's own job like Dark Knight and other 3.0 Jobs. Give the Summoner Hyur Highlander Size Egis that resemble the Primals as Pets with Hard Mode Primal abilities and Mega Nuke AoE Bursts. Give the Summoner Dark Elemental move set for sustained damage secondary damage.

Wow that's all? So basically tear down the entire class/job and rebuild it from scratch? Brilliant.

[Exstal]

I'm impressed, it took over 70 pages of posts to realize Akiza has been trolling this entire time. Well played.

We've almost always known he was trolling. It's just hard to leave him talking about this, people who don't read all the pages of a thread (which is 98% of all forum goers) will get the wrong idea.

[Estevo]

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Yeah, thick skin is required, and you are right, I suppose something just urks me when I hear about technical limitations in games, it just feels so...negative, also, I'm really disappointed that they're making full primals be summon-able for free-companies, when there's already a Summoner class, it feels like a kick in the shin in my opinion, I hope I'm wrong. Otherwise the devs are doing a great job, and I still believe that Heavensward is going to do everything it sets out to do amazingly, looking forward to it!

[Dyvid]

On another interesting note, Yoshi-P did mention job would get their own LB. Obviously we are still caster so AoE is the name of the game. The question is what should our LB be? I'm personally hoping for Elder Primal Egi. Namely Odin Egi (Gungnir) for level one, Alexander Egi (Judgement) for level two, and Bahamut Egi (Mega Flare) for level three. As for Scholar, level one would be Sylph 1, Asura 2, Phoenix 3.

[Lego3400]

Nope. I like pet classes.

[Jandor]

On another interesting note, Yoshi-P did mention job would get their own LB. Obviously we are still caster so AoE is the name of the game. The question is what should our LB be? I'm personally hoping for Elder Primal Egi. Namely Odin Egi (Gungnir) for level one, Alexander Egi (Judgement) for level two, and Bahamut Egi (Mega Flare) for level three. As for Scholar, level one would be Sylph 1, Asura 2, Phoenix 3.

I'm hoping for our current summon to grow and pull off ever more powerful looking attacks through the 3 LBs. Normally I'd think it's a bit much to hope for essentially 6 different limit break animations but in this case, for the LB3s at least, they already exist because the actual primals do them in their Trials.

[dday3six]

something just urks me when I hear about technical limitations in games, it just feels so...negative...

Balance is not a technical issue. It has nothing to do with hardware or software limits. In the most simplistic form it is about diversity. Making sure one job or role (Melee or Ranged) is not more desirably sought because it's strictly better than others.

Take the Pre-2.1 Warrior for example, in most cases Paladin was the go-to tank before the buffs to Warrior. Speaking directly to any purposed Summoner changes. If they would make Summoner greatly more or even less desired for party composition, it would have negative impacts on the game. The idea is no matter what job you want to play, for there to be valued place for you.

[Delily]

I'm really disappointed that they're making full primals be summon-able for free-companies, when there's already a Summoner class, it feels like a kick in the shin in my opinion, I hope I'm wrong.

Why? In the context of this game, it takes a lot of energy and willpower to summon a primal, and when you do, there's little chance you can control them. There would have to be a rather convulted reason we could summon and control a full primal, and SE tends to be pretty consistent with the lore.