Quote Originally Posted by Duelle View Post
Almost every FF that's ever had Red Mage is turned based.
FF1 is turn based. FF3 is turn based. FF5 is not. FFXI is not. FFXII is not.

RDM had access to lower tiers of what BLM and WHM had access to, so yes it had weaker magic as a whole.
You said weak, not weaker. There is a big difference there. You haven't changed much since the FFXI forums... so difficult to talk to. I mean right after that you go on to talk about what "RDM should be in concept" and then say it could be within 5% damage of a true melee DPS. How can you seriously think that is OK? The class that you keep describing is not Red Mage, period. You need to figure out a name for this class you keep trying to turn RDM into, so you can call it that instead. And no, RDM is not comparable to Ret Pally or Enhancement Shaman from WoW, those 2 classes are REAL MELEE DPS. RDM is a hybrid. Shaman and Paladin in WoW haven't been hybrids since Vanilla.

Actually, I think the class you're looking for is Mystic Knight. I don't know why you keep confusing that for RDM.