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    No, we should not accept this if it's true. Yes, we should complain. No, I don't have to go make a game like FFXIV before I have the right to complain.

    6 months is insane no matter what they are working with.

    I also took art and design classes in college. If I were to tell my professors about this, they would laugh in my face and wonder how the f SE is such a big company.

    Actually, that's most likely the problem. SE itself is huge, but how many people are actually working on XIV? Like 11?
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    Quote Originally Posted by miqokini View Post
    No, we should not accept this if it's true. Yes, we should complain. No, I don't have to go make a game like FFXIV before I have the right to complain.

    6 months is insane no matter what they are working with.

    I also took art and design classes in college. If I were to tell my professors about this, they would laugh in my face and wonder how the f SE is such a big company.

    Actually, that's most likely the problem. SE itself is huge, but how many people are actually working on XIV? Like 11?
    Wouldn't make a whole lot of sense to put a lot of people on the project especially not for the artwork and such, the core of the game is what is important for them to change to get this game into a ready state so they can actually begin to make money off of it instead of hemorrhaging cash.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Charismatic View Post
    Wouldn't make a whole lot of sense to put a lot of people on the project especially not for the artwork and such, the core of the game is what is important for them to change to get this game into a ready state so they can actually begin to make money off of it instead of hemorrhaging cash.
    I guess this makes sense. They should have been more specific, in that case. They could have said, "At this time, with so much devoted to core mechanics, it takes us 6 months to pump out one armor set. Once we have the core mechanics squared away, we will be able to devote much more resources to designing new equipment."

    But the way they said it makes it seem like that is the case regardless of where there resources are being spent.

    And the argument that they are moving so slowly to not waste more money than they have to does not make much sense to me. Not many people are going to buy into the game if content comes at a snail pace at this point to warrant future purchases/subscriptions.
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    For those of you who say this should be done in a month, I say put your money where your mouth is. The artist's work is the short end of the schedule. There is much to do to make this happen. It can happen much faster than 6 months if you rush it and avoid a lot of "polish", but if you are trying to do the job right, it will easily take over 3 months. You can put multiple people on the various steps though and start to crank these out much faster. Even WoW took a long time to put out new models and those were much much simpler.

    For those of you that say "I am an artist and I can do it in a month", I say "show us an example and tell how long the entire thing took from start (concept) to finish (working in a game)".

    Finally, why even get upset about this? How is this bothering you in-game?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kajika View Post
    For those of you that say "I am an artist and I can do it in a month", I say "show us an example and tell how long the entire thing took from start (concept) to finish (working in a game)".
    They won't do this because they can't, look at the other guy when he was told to prove something related towards the dungeons..he didn't hesitate to show proof lol.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jennestia View Post
    They won't do this because they can't, look at the other guy when he was told to prove something related towards the dungeons..he didn't hesitate to show proof lol.
    Well, I was defending SE in saying I couldn't do the same quality in the same time they can, but I can give you proof of what I do by my old portfolio atleast, if this gives my word any credit (am not allowed to show any of what I work on in studio otherwise I will be fired lol) http://mattyws.moonfruit.com/
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    Quote Originally Posted by MattyWS View Post
    Well, I was defending SE in saying I couldn't do the same quality in the same time they can, but I can give you proof of what I do by my old portfolio atleast, if this gives my word any credit (am not allowed to show any of what I work on in studio otherwise I will be fired lol) http://mattyws.moonfruit.com/
    Cool stuff. I especially like the dock photo and the sword and note. Is this what you do for a living? If so, I'm jealous.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MattyWS View Post
    Well, I was defending SE in saying I couldn't do the same quality in the same time they can, but I can give you proof of what I do by my old portfolio atleast, if this gives my word any credit (am not allowed to show any of what I work on in studio otherwise I will be fired lol) http://mattyws.moonfruit.com/
    There! I would believe this guy's opinion over anyone saying they do this stuff all the time in 3 weeks.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jennestia View Post
    They won't do this because they can't, look at the other guy when he was told to prove something related towards the dungeons..he didn't hesitate to show proof lol.
    The thing is, we know it's not just one guy doing the entire design from concept to finished product. If it was just one guy then this would be a tad more acceptable, but it's a team. A team of professionals, none-the-less.

    Again, I'm going with the assumption that it was a mistranslation. They probably meant 6 months for many sets of armor, or 6 months for the time being while they focus on more important issues.

    If you simply assume and accept that they meant 6 months for one armor set and that is the end-all be-all, then you are simply blinded by your loyalty.

    NOTE: When I say you, I am speaking in general terms. Please don't take this the wrong way. ^^
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jennestia View Post
    They won't do this because they can't, look at the other guy when he was told to prove something related towards the dungeons..he didn't hesitate to show proof lol.
    Did you mean the thing with melee that Meowy posted?
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