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    Little updates weekly vs Great updates Monthly

    What do you like?

    i want little updates, coz seems like game is continually evolving. For example, could be goood to see little updates like:

    - Revamp food system
    - Search System
    - UI upgrade
    - Transportation

    all them individually seems to me a better option than wait 2-3 month for a huge update.
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    More sidequests, like...twice as many as were in this patch.

    I had fun the first three days post-patch just running around doing quests, now I'm out of quests to do.
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    I would much rather see a bi-weekly update. Maybe every other Sunday we could get an update on the content they've finished testing out, rather than hold it back and release one big update. A weekly update might become annoying after a while.
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    While I kinda agree I think there are a lot of things that just require a bigger incubation period to get ready. There are a lot of teams working on a bunch of tasks... Right now it seems that the bigger things are holding back the littler ones, but there will have to be bigger projects. Maybe alternating between small and big releases could be a middle ground?
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    id prefer a weekly or biweekly update but i doubt it would be technically possible. The changes that are needed are too...big. Honestly they need a huge patch every month at this rate cause the jp forums are just raging at 1.18
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    Quote Originally Posted by Deceptistar View Post
    id prefer a weekly or biweekly update but i doubt it would be technically possible. The changes that are needed are too...big. Honestly they need a huge patch every month at this rate cause the jp forums are just raging at 1.18
    Really? What are they raging about?
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    Quote Originally Posted by SuzakuCMX View Post
    Really? What are they raging about?
    well im on page 32 atm and still got 20 more pages to go.
    Currently the repeated topics on the Patch 1.18 threads are:

    -overall wtf?
    -"You didnt test this did you?/what are you thinking?/Do you guys actually find this fun before you release it?/lol yoshiP-beta"
    -Cure hate rage
    -MP cost rage
    -repair rate rage
    -snail(auto)-attack rage
    -leve quest SP rage
    -behest rage
    -Imbalance rage (including THM/CON issue and solo/party play)
    -passive/active mode changing (they dont like the characters sliding) this was a bit menial i think tho...

    -dungeons- are about the only thing thats got a neutral if not good impression. Just they are angry at the above implements. and some anger on the con/arc/gla focused setups

    and its probably safe to say that "8 out of 10 are not happy"
    and "1-3 out of the 8 think its crap"

    compared to them the NA forums are largely optimistic.
    thers so much complaint on the JP side that you dont see as much pple backing up the optimistic side like we see in the NA forums. (like here some pple would bash them if they complained too much and call them trolls)
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    Last edited by Deceptistar; 07-26-2011 at 11:16 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Deceptistar View Post

    and its probably safe to say that "8 out of 10 are not happy"
    and "1-3 out of the 8 think its crap"
    This statement lacks a real statistic. The complainers are always the one who wants to make theor voice heard, while the ones who are satisfied keep a low profile. Watch things getting nerfed, MP use getting lowered(too far), hate being facerolled by tanks etc after a fix or whatever may come, THEN you will see everyone who was fine with the patch starting their rage complaints...

    That's why I like the "Like" Button. Cause peolpe who are satisfied can click it and show that way, they are satisfied without needing their voice to be heard and I'm sorry...all threads that were "positively" speaking of the patch had more likes, then the ones speaking negatively of it...so go figure.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TirionCrey View Post
    This statement lacks a real statistic. The complainers are always the one who wants to make theor voice heard, while the ones who are satisfied keep a low profile. Watch things getting nerfed, MP use getting lowered(too far), hate being facerolled by tanks etc after a fix or whatever may come, THEN you will see everyone who was fine with the patch starting their rage complaints...

    That's why I like the "Like" Button. Cause peolpe who are satisfied can click it and show that way, they are satisfied without needing their voice to be heard and I'm sorry...all threads that were "positively" speaking of the patch had more likes, then the ones speaking negatively of it...so go figure.
    your just looking for excuses. The "button" does you no good if you cant read japanese.... yeah i see a crap ton of "likes" there but how are you suppose to know...
    Quote Originally Posted by Eekiki View Post
    Until our resident subligar wearer confirms this, I don't believe for a second that the JP forums are "raging".
    ignorance is bliss
    the resident subligar was one of the pple that posted there that was disgruntled. I think he quoted that his wife got fed up the first day of the patch.
    Why is it a surprise that other pple can read japanese too, it cant be THAT rare can it?
    you sound like youll blindly beleive him if he told you they were 100% happy ;P
    "The truth will set you free. But first, it will piss you off."
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    Last edited by Deceptistar; 07-27-2011 at 05:05 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Deceptistar View Post
    well im on page 32 atm and still got 20 more pages to go.
    Currently the repeated topics on the Patch 1.18 threads are:

    -overall wtf?
    -"You didnt test this did you?/what are you thinking?/Do you guys actually find this fun before you release it?/lol yoshiP-beta"
    -Cure hate rage
    -MP cost rage
    -repair rate rage
    -snail(auto)-attack rage
    -leve quest SP rage
    -behest rage
    -Imbalance rage (including THM/CON issue and solo/party play)
    -passive/active mode changing (they dont like the characters sliding) this was a bit menial i think tho...

    -dungeons- are about the only thing thats got a neutral if not good impression. Just they are angry at the above implements. and some anger on the con/arc/gla focused setups

    and its probably safe to say that "8 out of 10 are not happy"
    and "1-3 out of the 8 think its crap"

    compared to them the NA forums are largely optimistic.
    thers so much complaint on the JP side that you dont see as much pple backing up the optimistic side like we see in the NA forums. (like here some pple would bash them if they complained too much and call them trolls)

    Do you mean page 32 of the forum , or 32 of a single complaint thread. If it's the latter then that has to be nice getting all the raging in one thread, but if its the former then man they post a hell of a lot more threads than we do.

    It does surprise me to hear JP players raging over the SP changes to leves. I know that JP players did a lot of leve-linking groups because how of how good the XP was from that; but honestly I didn't think anyone would be sorry to see that go. I too regret not taking advantage of that broken system as much as I could have, but I hope XP parties will be able to compete better in terms of xp/hour once we get them fully fixed up in 1.2.

    Grind groups are so much better though for the game/community, if not in terms of XP (at least until we get xp chains maybe and other enhancements to them in 1.2) then at least in terms of how enjoyable they are as a means of leveling. Leve-linking every 36 hours was crap, I would rage if they brought that back as the primary form of group leveling.

    The other thing that surprises me is auto-attack rage. On my LNC, Pugilist, and GLA I never have to wait for any significant period of time while auto attack builds TP like I did in XI, and during that time I'm generally using other abilities. When you throw in the "special" basic attacks that remain, I guess I see auto-attack as a complete afterthought mostly with the only difference from the previous system being that I don't have to spam it near as much (which I consider a big plus).
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