Do NOT make the same mistake as FFXI.

[Shikaree]

@Reika

I thought we would have seen the start of the new jobs going along with this patch. I thought I read something that the r45 dungeon was to have some careful planning in the roles each person was to bring. And I mean that in the way that you needed a unique makeup where everyone could contribute something different, not purposely stack the same 1-2 jobs.

Now with FFXI, I had drg and whm leveled to 75 back for those days. I loved playing drg but what was it good for? Birds, Royal Jelly bcnm and uh...birds. When I leveled whm, it was to be a subjob for drg but I enjoyed leveling it so much I decided to take it to 75 also. Why else? Because one of the reasons was that I knew if I had whm I could have an easier time getting into events. Even if I wanted to play drg instead, I was always asked to go whm to everything because I was more useful there. There was another person who did get to go as drg to the same events, but only because it was his only job leveled.

And here I am on my lancer getting worried again that the one class/job I would like to play the most is now going to be low tier for clearing content.

Right now the patch feels like an energy drink to me. I got hyper, I did some things, now the rush is wearing off and I feel worse than I did before the patch hit. I'm not putting the game down yet, but I'm in need of a break to continue to wait and see if SE can pull this through with the rest of their summer content plans.

[Demacia]

"What?! You mean people only want the strongest classes when they do something really hard and new?"

Yeah that's an FFXI exclusive feature right there. Welcome to MMOs, deal with it.

[LuxLex]

"What?! You mean people only want the strongest classes when they do something really hard and new?"

Yeah that's an FFXI exclusive feature right there. Welcome to MMOs, deal with it.

So, THM was nerfed, why? What is the point of nerfing classes for "balance" if you aren't going to have any balance anyway?

[Charismatic]

"What?! You mean people only want the strongest classes when they do something really hard and new?"

Yeah that's an FFXI exclusive feature right there. Welcome to MMOs, deal with it.

durrr hurrr, i don't read.
It's not just that Archer is the best, Archer is far and away the best.

This is when rebalancing needs to be done.

[Demacia]

So, THM was nerfed, why? What is the point of nerfing classes for "balance" if you aren't going to have any balance anyway?

Things tend to get nerfed when they're overpowered (aka unbalanced). Mages are just fine now.

[Physic]

"What?! You mean people only want the strongest classes when they do something really hard and new?"

Yeah that's an FFXI exclusive feature right there. Welcome to MMOs, deal with it.

the problem is, in thier balancing patch, they imbalance the classes way more.

before pug was defense and offense and survival, now its just offense
before marauder was defense and offense and survival and aoe, now its just the lowest DD
before lancer was DD and support, now its just DD
everything thm can do, con can do almost as well or better, except for the fact they got whm shackles on their hands and feet now.

it would be one thing if difficulty showed the imbalances already inherent, but thier job fixes were actually them making the classes even further imbalanced.

And yeah the constant goal of MMO developers is to try to correct the imbalances in the game, some of these are the same problems they and others have already dealt with, why create it again?

[Demacia]

the problem is, in thier balancing patch, they imbalance the classes way more.

before pug was defense and offense and survival, now its just offense
before marauder was defense and offense and survival and aoe, now its just the lowest DD
before lancer was DD and support, now its just DD

it would be one thing if difficulty showed the imbalances already inherent, but thier job fixes were actually them making the classes even further imbalanced.

And yeah the constant goal of MMO developers is to try to correct the imbalances in the game, some of these are the same problems they and others have already dealt with, why create it again?

Are you one of those dudes that thinks PGL can't defend itself because it can no longer spam light strike and cures?

[LuxLex]

Things tend to get nerfed when they're overpowered (aka unbalanced). Mages are just fine now.

Ok, you're free to believe that, but I don't.

[zaviermhigo]

Well part of the problem is the thinking that "some classes should be nerfed, instead of beefing up some classes, and changing mobs qualities." Another part is they made mobs in the r45 dungeons eat mrd lnc souls. I do agree tone down OP classes, but in the same vein beef up classes. Conj needed a role but thm could take a few more things to be a dd properly. MRD and LNC need the most in the whole game, and didn't receive the balancing/beefing up they deserved in my opinion. ARC/CON/GLA and maybe PUG/THM are the only classes now, but it doesn't mean that eventually this game will be balanced. Obviously when jobs come out, I don't think anyone will be touching classes anymore.

[Demacia]

Ok, you're free to believe that, but I don't.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KazOD98mqr4

Don't mind me just tanking, nuking, debuffing, and healing all at once.