Congrats guys, you can no longer HQ Craft while waiting for the DF queue

[BobbinT]

Then don't craft while waiting? Why should me and a bunch of other people wait on crafters making junk trying to beat the clock? If you really want to join the duty, drop what you're doing and get in line when the window pops. If crafting is more important to you, don't use the duty finder and hold everyone else up.

Then what're you gonna do while waiting for a 30 minutes long DF? Stare blankly to the screen and not moving a twitch?

And obviously you don't like market, hence calling it junks. But what has became viewed as junks for you are someone else worthy treasures. And believe me, it DOES pays the "bills".

Besides, crafting are just one of excuse. What if RL emergency stuff happened? You can't never tell when does things happened around need that need quick attention, unless you have known it before and therefore not DFing on that time.

All of these comes to one simple dilemma: Waiting VS Boredom/Emergency.

I think the only time I've ever withdrawn from duty was when I did something dumb while working on relic by selecting Hydra in DF while still having AK selected. Then AK would pop and I'd have to withdraw because of my error. I feel bad, but with the new system, I totally deserve a strike.

or me mistakenly DFing on wrong job since needing to farm atmas and the job I wanna use for DF are for Nexus farming, combined with hunt pop shout I wanna go after which tends to auto cancel DF when I shout for invite. Happens often when I need to DF quickly. lol

[Zophar]

I've always been for a penalty for withdrawing. But even I think this is a bit much. I think they should have just gone with something like a 5 minute lockout each time you withdraw. This is... just wow.

[BobbinT]

I've always been for a penalty for withdrawing. But even I think this is a bit much. I think they should have just gone with something like a 5 minute lockout each time you withdraw. This is... just wow.

I'm suspecting another scheme for prolonging MMO age. If you fall into penalty equals more time and more resubbing? If you accomplish goals faster than what SE gonna throw you, you might start to complain and leaving (again). Even XI still has daily lockout Dynamis. I do admit getting a bit bored by now. lol

[Odd]

My god people, NOWHERE DOES IT SAY YOU WON'T BE ABLE TO USE THE DF FOR A FULL DAY.

I think it's much more likely a 30 min penalty, exactly like how Shyluv explained it. Why don't you save you rage until your see exactly how it's implemented?

[BobbinT]

My god people, NOWHERE DOES IT SAY YOU WON'T BE ABLE TO USE THE DF FOR A FULL DAY.

I think it's much more likely a 30 min penalty, exactly like how Shyluv explained it. Why don't you save you rage until your see exactly how it's implemented?

This does makes some ppl think about it:

This count will reset every day at 9:00 a.m. (PDT).

[Hestern_Nestern]

In context, however, it says, "temporarily prohibited". As in, "lasting only a short time" (granted, there is another definition of the word temporary, which is simply, "not permanent", meaning "ending at a time before forever"; I do not believe the sentence gives way to that definition, though).

/think

[chococo]

Not that I am against it but this decision is harsh, way TOO harsh Now, people gotta think twice before queuing in DF, make DF is even more deserted or it could lead to disaster . ..... DPS will be the most be affected because of their super long queue time,now SE force them to stay in front of their computer for the entire time till it pops without knowing WHEN it will pop... GG!!!!

Yep. totally prevents DPS from doing other stuff while waiting for queue. Do maps, do FATES, do whatever, even going to WC > queue pops > forced to abandon whatever you were doing. 1 minute isn't always enough to finish what was going on. This punishment is fine as long as the allowed response time is lengthened.

[chococo]

In context, however, it says, "temporarily prohibited". As in, "lasting only a short time" (granted, there is another definition of the word temporary, which is simply, "not permanent", meaning "ending at a time before forever"; I do not believe the sentence gives way to that definition, though).

/think

temporarily probably means for the rest of the day. Otherwise the daily "count reset" time has no use at all.

[Amelia_Pond_Behemoth]

Again, can we please wait until Tuesday before we complain about the harshness of the timer?

"Players who select Withdraw from the Duty Ready confirmation window or allow the window to time out without making a selection three times or more in one day, will be temporarily prohibited from registering for duties via the Duty Finder."

Someone explain to me how you can withdraw more than 3 times per 24h period if the lockout is the entire rest of the day?

[chococo]

Actually I like this change. ST is a grand example for this... 24 players waiting to for the damned dungeon to queue, there's always ONE person who times out 2-3 times or ultimately withdraws from the DF altogether, while others have been queued for a long time.

One night it triggered 5-6 times after waiting 30+ minutes then had to wait 20 more minutes on it to trigger 2 more times then finally after a total of (iirc) 1 hr 06 minutes... If you are preoccupied with another task, don't clog DF and inconvenience others that have been patiently waiting. If you need that HQ item, ya better craft it or be sure you can complete it before DF triggers.

Maybe they could implement a system where the ppl that have confirmed already are put into an advance queue while it searches for someone to fill the missing spot?

Or maybe they could implement an (exponentially) increasing lockout before you can DF again to punish repeated offenders.