Onward to Patch 1.19

[Jinrya-Geki]

So... now that everyone expects me to be a healer cause I am Conjurer. Will I have to wait very long for Patch 1.19 to have the stats/damage formula adjusted?

I didn't raise Con/Thm to be a healer. Though, because of that, no one will invite me to the 50 raid instance because I refuse to be a healer. It's not fun to me. Anyone who can be a healer is a saint. I didn't stat myself to do any form of Disciple of War job, nor to I plan to be one on my Lalafel.

When will we see new Disciples of Magic, that won't have cures/buffs and just be DD? Cause Conjurer and Thaumaturge are sure as hell not pulling that off with normal nukes. They do more damage with DoTs, and Battle Regimen, over time. I would very much like to be doing 3k damage on my own without assistance every time we fight.

"You're a conjurer (mage) your supposed to healer" ... yeah you know what? Here's my response to that. Heal you god damn self, if you're gonna tell me how to play. So am I, and I tell you go heal yourself. (>:C) ..i._

There are plenty of people willing to be whm and are already way better at it than me. Ask one of them to do it.

I'd like Wizard now please to show people how a real spellslinger does it! :P

[Catapult]

A lot of good topics wrapped in to one. *like*

[Betelgeuzah]

Yes, you will have to wait.

[SuzakuCMX]

I want a Mage /trollface.

Anyways, it's not so much that you can't be a nuker as much as it is that CON is now the only class capable of AoE healing and they have the best raise spells.

I still think they should've kept AoE heals on both classes but made it heal for less when toggled to AoE...

[Jinrya-Geki]

No one wants me to nuke though, they want me to heal. I think that's unfair. I don't tell them how to play, why should they tell me? I am wondering how long must I wait till I can partake in the damage dealing.

Seems like 1.19, but it could also be in 1.20 as well considering that's when they want the advanced roles out by then. For all I know they could do the same thing in patch 1.19 but with the nuke spells. Make all the nukes spells cost quadruple amount and possible make the Black Mage advanced role make it cost less. ...oh that will be a glourious day when it takes 100 mp to cast a Fire II.

So yeah I know I have to wait. Probably not going to be able to enter the dungeon till they re work the stats. I don't get why those weren't done first. ; ; Just gonna have to do my crafting leves for the day and logout.

[Reika]

I think its pretty stupid too. Actually, I know its stupid. They should have waited til WHM and BLM job unlocks to have aoe-only cures and split elemental DD off into BLM Job. People who wanted to be healer go WHM, people who wanted to blow sht up go BLM. SIMPLE SE.... simple.

They totally jacked conj up. Now theyre attack spells are more for soloing than they are for partying.

[Betelgeuzah]

I think its pretty stupid too. Actually, I know its stupid. They should have waited til WHM and BLM job unlocks to have aoe-only cures and split elemental DD off into BLM Job. People who wanted to be healer go WHM, people who wanted to blow sht up go BLM. SIMPLE SE.... simple.

They totally jacked conj up. Now theyre attack spells are more for soloing than they are for partying.

If nukes are useless, nukes are useless regardless of if there is a blm job or not.

SE needs to add more utility for that role, simple as that. Should they wait and not implement anything before they're done? Sounds like a selfish request.

[Reika]

If nukes are useless, nukes are useless regardless of if there is a blm job or not.

SE needs to add more utility for that role, simple as that. Should they wait and not implement anything before they're done? Sounds like a selfish request.

Nukes are useless because it takes away from precious healing mp, which btw drains casters pretty fast now. Spells in general drain casters pretty fast now, there's not enuf MP in the pool to do both. Move nukes to a different job and now you have the MP to do what you're meant to do.

[Betelgeuzah]

Nukes are useless because it takes away from precious healing mp, which btw drains casters pretty fast now. Spells in general drain casters pretty fast now, there's not enuf MP in the pool to do both. Move nukes to a different job and now you have the MP to do what you're meant to do.

In which case the job simply becomes an outcast like blm in XI. If healing is more precious than nuking its better to take another healer to the dungeon instead. There is no utility, there is no demand.

They need to figure out some XIII type functions (stagger) to make nuking an important part of the gameplay. You can't just force it on a job and expect everyone to invite one to your dungeon if they didn't do so before.

[Reika]

In which case the job simply becomes an outcast like blm in XI. If healing is more precious than nuking its better to take another healer to the dungeon instead. There is no utility, there is no demand.

They need to figure out some XIII type functions (stagger) to make nuking an important part of the gameplay. You can't just force it on a job and expect everyone to invite one to your dungeon if they didn't do so before.

Of course take 4-7 healers, because monsters dont have HP that need dropping right? Its not as simple as you think. Groups need X amount of tanks, Y amount of DD, and Z amount heals. Saying 'Just take another healer over the nuker' is the same as taking another healer over a lancer, marauder, gladiator, pugilist, and archer, because none of them can heal either.

And seriously, An MMO/Final Fantasy without a nuker mage job? That doesn't and shouldn't exsist anywhere.