Thread: Onward to Patch 1.19

Originally Posted by Jinrya-Geki

I haven't been in the dungeon at all yet. I don't know very much what works well in a party to be honest. :C Poor leadership skillz, but I'd try with people I know if anything.

Back-up healing is one thing, but I am asked to be a main healer, so nothing else besides buffs/heal. In an extreme circumstance, maybe, MAYBE I'd main heal to help someone out. But if there's someone else that can do it, then I don't want to.

The problem is really the balance of how many healers are needed and how many people capable of healing are available. If you need all the healing you can get, then they're going to have to ask you to heal, because otherwise nobody gets to succeed. This was a big deal in vanilla WoW where in most guilds every hybrid class HAD to heal because there just wasn't enough to go around otherwise. I'm sorry that this is having the effect of pigeonholing people like you, but don't blame the playerbase for it. Everyone just wants to be able to succeed, and if they could succeed without you healing I think most people would be fine with you being a damage dealer.

Originally Posted by indira

put it like this if you have a heal spell your a healer you know it and everyone else knows it.

Jinrya-Geki you would not be lv50 CON if this was forced party games like ffxi, proof the game was is to easy. might as well change your class or or learn to heal


we had ultility, people cried now were getting more defined classes so your the healer now buddy and in the future it will most likely be more so

You're right if Conjurer was just a flat out healer, I would never have touch it. But because it had the Nukes, and beneficial abilities such as Spiritbind, and saw it more of a Black Mage I raised it. I also Raised Thaumaturge as well, but because of sacrifice it was also seen as a healer. So I am crap out of luck for now.

I know I have heals, but that isn't going to make me be a healer. If you have a conjurer and you want/need a healer then why don't you be one?

lets hope 1.19 will fix the mess that 1.18 has made^^

You mean the mess that september 2010 had made? Its gonna take longer than that.

There are other classes that are locked into a specific role also. I didnt level my MAR to R50 just to be the party default tank, I would like to be the highest melee damage dealer in the party, but because of high HP, hate skills, and the ability to regen HP from TP Im always the tank. Being a healer is just something mages will have to put up with until nuke classes are released for DoW.

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But seriously, I've been asking for a clear revision (division?) of DoM into logical roles:

One that has cures/buffs/status removal (like White Mage)

One that gets a stiffy putting high level mobs on that toaster setting that exists for some god unknown reason that always makes your toast into charcoal and no sane person would ever use (like Black Mage)

One that focuses on debuffs, party enhancement spells and DoTs (like Red Mage)

One that casts Bacon Storm, which is a lot like Air Tam Storm except with bacon instead of materia (like Bacon Mage)

One that fast forwards the game to its finished state where all the kinks are worked out, there's a functional party/search feature, the solo guy can get some SP fighting more than a few high SP-giving mob families, the landscapes/maps aren't designed using repetitive RPG Maker tiles, et cetera (like Time Mage)