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    This is what happens when SE releases the recipe details before servers go down.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lyrinn View Post
    This is what happens when SE releases the recipe details before servers go down.
    Unfortunately, the preliminary Patch 2.4 notes that were published on Friday contained recipe information that was not intended to be published. Our policy is such that we do not post information that can have any effect on the behavior of the market. Since the information spread so quickly, we made the decision not to remove it as it was already out in the wild.

    We apologize for any frustration that this has caused and moving forward we will introduce additional operations checks to ensure that this situation does not arise again.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Grekumah View Post
    We apologize for any frustration that this has caused and moving forward we will introduce additional operations checks to ensure that this situation does not arise again.
    Sadly, apologies dont fix the market issues SE created with that "slip".

    As if the whole marketplace wasnt screwed up enough with imbalances.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Teirshin View Post
    Sadly, apologies dont fix the market issues SE created with that "slip".

    As if the whole marketplace wasnt screwed up enough with imbalances.
    Would have happened anyway. Just would have happened after the patch and not before.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MomomiMomi View Post
    Would have happened anyway. Just would have happened after the patch and not before.
    Which is why I think BEFORE is better at least we have time to stock them up and not rushing and running to places to get the items or even craft them

    Maybe to be fair, announce a fixed time that the patch notes will be released.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ooshima View Post
    Maybe to be fair, announce a fixed time that the patch notes will be released.
    I think this is the main reason not to release them before the servers go down. The people who got a market advantage were those who realized the preliminary notes were up. By the time I realized they were, the market was already in chaos.

    Obviously there's no way to make it fair for everyone, but saving the information until the servers are down is probably the best they can do.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MomomiMomi View Post
    I think this is the main reason not to release them before the servers go down. The people who got a market advantage were those who realized the preliminary notes were up. By the time I realized they were, the market was already in chaos.

    Obviously there's no way to make it fair for everyone, but saving the information until the servers are down is probably the best they can do.

    That's why I said, state a fixed time that the patch notes would be up, so that people knows when it will be up and read it.

    No different from what was before because there is a fixed time that your server will be up for you to visit the market board.

    This time's "accidental" release of full patch notes made me realized that it would be really better pre-patch because there is time for you to prepare before hand. Things like Wolfram Ingots, Cashmere Cloth etc etc needs to be crafted and you can craft them before hand instead of wasting time after server is up to craft them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Teirshin View Post
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    The mats in question are put up by crafters to sell to other crafters in the first place. Anyone in need of them to craft is also high enough to make the items people desynth for the mastercraft demimateria. The only thing this really did was drive the people with extra gil to buy up what they needed in advance inflating the price temporarily. Those people do not have any issues spending that kind of gil to be first in anything and would have bought it all up patch day regardless while the rest of us are at work. The early notes didn't really do anything long-term.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Grekumah View Post
    Unfortunately, the preliminary Patch 2.4 notes that were published on Friday contained recipe information that was not intended to be published. Our policy is such that we do not post information that can have any effect on the behavior of the market. Since the information spread so quickly, we made the decision not to remove it as it was already out in the wild.

    We apologize for any frustration that this has caused and moving forward we will introduce additional operations checks to ensure that this situation does not arise again.
    Glad to hear a response about this, and that steps are being taken to ensure it doesn't happen again.

    Also good to see that you survived Fanfest Grekumah, Matt really needs to stop threatening to fire you guys on live air
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    [QUOTE=Grekumah;2539249] Our policy is such that we do not post information that can have any effect on the behavior of the market. [QUOTE]

    But you did? Then decided not to remove this information? There are people who took advantage of this information while the servers were up. I'm not boo hooing at all, but its careless nonetheless.

    Please stop rushing things SE. It's not just patch notes.
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