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  1. #21
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    Zanmato's Avatar
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    Saizou Kirigakure
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    Quote Originally Posted by Velhart View Post
    Yea, no. So basically what you are saying is, SE will change stats around every time a new class/job comes out? Also, Samurai has not been announced at all yet. Wait till this weekend before saying that.
    That's correct, however, there has been hints at Samurai. From the image of Nobunaga Oda (a well-known Samurai warlord of feudal Japan) during the Lore panel, to Soken's G:\\SQEX_Proj_M\Proj\Samurai folder. Sure, it isn't a direct confirmation, but it is a massive hint, and is very likely an indirect confirmation.
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    Eorzean Climber (Noborist)

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    Einheri Sigurd
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zanmato View Post
    That's correct, however, there has been hints at Samurai. From the image of Nobunaga Oda (a well-known Samurai warlord of feudal Japan) during the Lore panel, to Soken's G:\\SQEX_Proj_M\Proj\Samurai folder. Sure, it isn't a direct confirmation, but it is a massive hint, and is very likely an indirect confirmation.
    Why couldn't Samurai be DEX like the Ninja? The "Gun Class" has been in data-mines since 1.0, why would you assume the Samurai is imminent? There are two confirmed additional classes for the X-pac. One healer and One Tank. There could be 10 classes added but atm all we know for 3.0 is One healer and One Tank. DRK SAM and RDM are the most requested classes as far as I can tell. I would assume we will eventually see all three and many others.


    DRK for the 3.0 tank. Heavy Armor, Magical Infused Attacks, Great Sword, Life Drains. That is 100% speculation.

    FF11 players will want any class from that game in FF14 changed because it doesn't "feel" like said class. That is 96% fact. : /

    Gods have mercy on Yoshi and the devs when they implement red mage.
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    Last edited by Einheri; 10-23-2014 at 02:31 AM.

  3. #23
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    They are copying the FF11 where MNK,NIN,SAM shared gear. NIN is dex because of evasion and Accu. It's like a mage without magic but the accu counts for hitting mobs and evasion for clones.
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    Theodulus Deodoros
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zanmato View Post
    That's correct, however, there has been hints at Samurai. From the image of Nobunaga Oda (a well-known Samurai warlord of feudal Japan) during the Lore panel, to Soken's G:\\SQEX_Proj_M\Proj\Samurai folder. Sure, it isn't a direct confirmation, but it is a massive hint, and is very likely an indirect confirmation.
    Not really? I'm pretty sure they addressed this by saying Soken does work for more SQEX projects than just XIV and unless you can come up with something that "Project M" stands for, I can't really see this as confirmation for Samurai. I'm not saying that they definitely won't be putting in Samurai, but a directory on his computer with a vague name that doesn't seemingly relate to XIV at all is really flimsy. Samurai is a pretty big class in general for the FF series and it could be from any number of things SQEX is working on.
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  5. #25
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    Velhart Aurion
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    Quote Originally Posted by Neyasa View Post
    They are copying the FF11 where MNK,NIN,SAM shared gear. NIN is dex because of evasion and Accu. It's like a mage without magic but the accu counts for hitting mobs and evasion for clones.
    What? /10char
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  6. #26
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    Shichi Mamura
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    Quote Originally Posted by Neyasa View Post
    They are copying the FF11 where MNK,NIN,SAM shared gear. NIN is dex because of evasion and Accu. It's like a mage without magic but the accu counts for hitting mobs and evasion for clones.
    Except NIN only briefly shares gear then gets its own gear (2.4 and onward). So this fails.
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  7. #27
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    Ahmira Duskbloom
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    I will hope until 2.4 launches that he was trolling us ALL with the dex comment, because honestly, if it was a all gear 2.38 and down is shared, it would share is Arch and the world would scream about being in oxymoron imaged gear for a nin. The way it is currently set up (and I can't see them reworking this unless they're fixing other minor stat issues) Nin is strength. Not only because tooltip says dex is a ranged atk modifier but every theorycrafter i've read/listened to backs that up.
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    "Welcome to the ranks of the blue mages. However, at this moment you are but an empty vessel--a base creature, weaker than the most ordinary mortal. A blue mage must wrest her strength and vitality from her enemies. Show me your hunger for unrivaled power! This is the only guidance I shall give you."
    ~ Final Fantasy XI Treasures of Aht Urhgan

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    I don't think willfully misleading the masses is something that would shine very brightly on Naoki if it does change. I think many people, despite liking NIN to be STR, would be outraged that he said one thing and directly contradicted it with another. Nothing like the housing debacle.
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    Reynhart Kristensen
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    Quote Originally Posted by Neyasa View Post
    They are copying the FF11 where MNK,NIN,SAM shared gear. NIN is dex because of evasion and Accu. It's like a mage without magic but the accu counts for hitting mobs and evasion for clones.
    Except DEX has absolutely no effect on Evasion and Accuracy in FFXIV. And it didn't have any effect on Evasion in FFXI, by the way.
    Quote Originally Posted by Exstal View Post
    Except NIN only briefly shares gear then gets its own gear (2.4 and onward). So this fails.
    There was an interview from Yoshi-P that started with "up to level 50". Maybe it's just that...leveling gear...who already have both STR and DEX.

    And once you hit 50, NIN would start having its own gear, with only DEX.
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    Last edited by Reynhart; 10-23-2014 at 08:49 AM.

  10. #30
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    I feel as though you are mostly upset because you went out of your way to collect gear ( str) and the whole dex thing made you feel as though you wasted time getting the wrong gear. I'm guilty of it too, but since it was stated shouldn't we just suck it up and move on?

    It may not be true, but that's how everyone who wants it to be str sounds when they oppose it.

    Nin being dex isn't the end of the world, all this does is piss off the people who were trying to collect gear for nin before it's release. Honestly, I'm kind of happy about it.

    Everything in the game is subject to change, hell at the last second before patch they very well could make it str. I now personally hope it's dex, they can change the tool tip message easily to accommodate nin.

    Again they didn't put nin on brd gear because nins don't look like brds, they look more like mnk. Plus it's easier to add a stat to existing gear than add all new gear for nin from 1-50 and change loot tables for every dungeon, raid, coffer or w/e else.

    They purposely didn't give out stat details, cc abilities and gear beforehand to prevent such a thing. (In my opinion) people just wanted to be ahead and assume what gear it would wear. It's their game really, they can do whatever they see fit to do. Our views and feelings are taken into account but it is ultimately their decision on the path anything in this game takes.

    I mean, is it really that bad that they could have (more than likely at this point) made nin dex based?
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    Last edited by Leonus; 10-23-2014 at 09:37 AM.

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