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  1. #11
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    Grotesque's Avatar
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    Do you really think that PayPal acts the same with SE how it does with normal ebay sellers or other 1-man minicompanies? You can bet that it would be very worthy for PayPal to have a deal with SE. So think about your statement again.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Grotesque View Post
    Do you really think that PayPal acts the same with SE how it does with normal ebay sellers or other 1-man minicompanies? You can bet that it would be very worthy for PayPal to have a deal with SE. So think about your statement again.
    Essentially, yes. Which is why everyone else is so edgy about using it. Which is also why Square are 'working' to implement it after Payplan closed, rather than having it ready beforehand, to ensure they didn't lose customers. They're busy negotiating. And let's face it, Square aren't exactly good for credit right now, so their bargaining power is not the greatest.
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  3. #13
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    Paypal and Apple Pay. :P
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  4. #14
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    Quote Originally Posted by Amberyl View Post
    Never.

    Because chargebacks. Paypal almost always side with the customer. See ArksCash and PSO2 for a similar problem with a similar payment option.
    This is sadly true for the purchase of physical goods and non-subscription based transactions using a normal PP goods/services payment. For sub based transactions I have no clue as I've never been on the seller side of it.

    I get around the customer one-sided chargebacks with an invoiced agreement prior to sale with conditions. Especially since my side work is the repair of older electronics (arcade and pinball). However, I also warranty my work, which is also in the conditions.

    Originally it was a pain, but after the initial start it has protected me very well with fraudulent claims. Especially International customers, as I force them to use EMS shipping with the correct insurance coverage to protect me from even more false claims and overall loss. Shipping to EU and even JP isn't cheap.
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  5. #15
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    Quote Originally Posted by ReplicaX View Post
    I get around the customer one-sided chargebacks with an invoiced agreement prior to sale with conditions.
    That's what NCSoft were doing when they ran the European Aion servers. They dropped it after, though, so it's difficult to tell how well it worked for them. Obviously, NCSoft then also ditched Aion in Europe altogether, so that may have been the deciding factor for pulling the plug.

    Such a stupid company, Paypal. Did you ever see this? Paypal dispute ends in destruction of violin.
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  6. #16
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    Quote Originally Posted by Amberyl View Post
    That's what NCSoft were doing when they ran the European Aion servers. They dropped it after, though, so it's difficult to tell how well it worked for them. Obviously, NCSoft then also ditched Aion in Europe altogether, so that may have been the deciding factor for pulling the plug.

    Such a stupid company, Paypal. Did you ever see this? Paypal dispute ends in destruction of violin.
    Yeah, I read that article, pretty sad and not the first time hearing PP do this. PP can be hard to work with just on a small seller lvl. I can only imagine what SE's legal team has to do to cover themselves.
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  7. #17
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    I'd be really happy if SE adds Paypal. I cannot have a credit card, but I got a few years ago a fake debit credit card looking card through Zoompass in Canada, which has been nice and helpful, but I'd rather use PayPal instead if I can. I only have 1 alt so I pay less per month, and with the cash shop coming, Paypal would be awesome to use.
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    English is NOT my mother language, French is. Use my recruitment code MV9YGNXD before paying your sub and get cool items. http://sqex.to/Cz9

  8. #18
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    I am hoping paypal will be added soon my sub suns out in 15 days. you can find my post I started about wanting/needing a paypal option.

    first post after reading no more ultimatepay/playspan
    Then me asking about a update on adding paypal to pay for sub,retainers ect
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  9. #19
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    I have credit card but too bad SE(na) doesn't accept international credit card. Have to get my friend to buy me the time card and I gotta paypal him back the amount. If they have paypal as an option, it would be easier though. Not to mention that you can only pay for the monthly fee but not able to buy fantasia and such.

    SE(eu) does accept international credit card, but I'm not sure why SE(na) doesn't.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Amberyl View Post
    Essentially, yes. Which is why everyone else is so edgy about using it. Which is also why Square are 'working' to implement it after Payplan closed, rather than having it ready beforehand, to ensure they didn't lose customers. They're busy negotiating. And let's face it, Square aren't exactly good for credit right now, so their bargaining power is not the greatest.
    the issue is, PlaySpan/UltimatePay didn't close. SE removed their service from the SE account system. whatever their reason it was stupid to remove it before they added a viable alternative.

    Quote Originally Posted by Neri View Post
    SE(eu) does accept international credit card, but I'm not sure why SE(na) doesn't.
    it isnt SE in this case, it is the banks that issue and accept those credit cards.
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    Last edited by Wildsprite; 10-23-2014 at 11:41 PM.

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