Zodiac quests should not be nerfed if 3.0 introduces brand new relics

[AckersFury]

Why would the make a new relic? So newcomers/returning players don't get stuck behind trying to do "old content". Do you really think people are going to want to run the old dungeons a lot when new expansion comes out? They barely do it now. This is the same reason they give echo to coil.

I bet the zodiac weapon quest will end once 3.0 comes out. It will become a vanity weapon since their plans were, at some point, to have it change the animations of certain skills.

hahaha, am sorry but your off your nut if you think there just gonna end the current relic line and relegate it to be used for 'glamour'...people have put crazy amounts of time and money into doing the relics, you think SE is just gonna terminate it and start fresh.....they will most likely nerf and alter early steps of the relic line...and introduce other things that force people to do content that crosses paths with relic needed events

[Felis]

Relic + Zenith? 3-4 hours
Atma? Lets be nice and say 16 hours
Animus? <throws up hands and runs ST>

Animus < 1 day each book (if you have the myth)

[Teryaani]

Animus < 1 day each book (if you have the myth)

Just being hyperbolic. My wife and I blasted through each book in about a day (weekend) then did hunts for a couple days during the week (only 2-3 hours on most weekdays) to rebuild myth. So we were chugging through two books a week like that.

When compared to the time to get the soldiery weapons, especially with no soldiery cap, there's just no comparison. It's a weapon per week once the cap is lifted.

[Fellisin]

Exactly this. This is what any sane new player is going to do. Once the cap is moved to 2000, you'll be able to get a 110 every week (i'm assuming the 1/week limit on tomestones is staying, otherwise it'll be even worse).
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I would assume Soldier tomes in 2.4 will be same as Myth Tomes are now. So there be no limit on how many tomes you can earn in a week, past how much time you can commit to activities which earn them. Only limit will be on how many you'll be held at any one time.

[Teryaani]

I would assume Soldier tomes in 2.4 will be same as Myth Tomes are now. So there be no limit on how many tomes you can earn in a week, past how much time you can commit to activities which earn them. Only limit will be on how many you'll be held at any one time.

Whoops, should have been clear. I was referring to the Unidentified Allagan Tomestone that drops from Coil and the last bosses of ST. Right now it's 1/week. They likely will lift the 1/week drop restriction on gear in ST, but they may leave the 1/week restriction on those.

[Numenor1379]

I highly doubt there will be any limitation on UATs. Besides, the 1/wk already isn't true. You can already get 5/wk if you get all the UATs from SCoB and use your ST drop for one. What's the point in capping access to outdated gear?

[Fellisin]

Whoops, should have been clear. I was referring to the Unidentified Allagan Tomestone that drops from Coil and the last bosses of ST. Right now it's 1/week. They likely will lift the 1/week drop restriction on gear in ST, but they may leave the 1/week restriction on those.

Ahh now it all makes sense.

I don't think they'll lift that 1 week limit on ST until 2.5 when the last part of crystal tower is supposed to be released. By then the i110 UAT weps won't matter to much as far as end game past glamour.

[DoctorPepper]

Ahh now it all makes sense.

I don't think they'll lift that 1 week limit on ST until 2.5 when the last part of crystal tower is supposed to be released. By then the i110 UAT weps won't matter to much as far as end game past glamour.

They already said that 2.4 will remove the gear lockout for ST so that people can gear up faster in order to participate in new endgame content. i110 is going to be the new i90 come 2.4 so please look forward to it.

[Ilitsa]

at this stage i dont really see how it matters much, the atma weapon is nothing but a glorified i90 and the rest of the questline is brutal.

I mean:

animus -> pretty long bookgrind + about 500k worth of gil lost in tomes alone (emery ~19k on my server)
novus -> long grind and the money lost could probably buy you one or two houses. (im not 100% certain since i havent done this myself, going by materia prices).
nexus -> wont cost you gil but its a very long grind aswell.

what does it matter if people who are just starting on this get their atmas a little faster? Its a good change anyway since the old system was unfair as hell. mine took about 35-40 hours while some got theirs in less than 15.

Just wanna put this out there, I didn't spend a single gil on my novus.

My question is where did you get the idea that 3.0 will contain new relics? I have never seen that in any official interview/live letter. Maybe I missed it but right now I'm under the impression that relics will continue to be upgradeable post 3.0.

In addition to relics they might add an additional upgradeable weapon (similar to how they added mythic weapons in FFXI) but so far we know nothing about 3.0 other than the name and a few obvious details (new jobs/primals/dungeons/raid).

Personally, I'm very grateful that they are increasing the atma drop rate, aside from that I'm not really too concerned. My experience with atma has not been a good one at all and at this point I've given up on it but the changes coming in 2.4 will give me a reason to go back and try again, hopefully without spending over 12 hours in a single zone without getting anything this time.

Seems more of a "what if" scenario than a question based in an actual announcement to me

[Fellisin]

They already said that 2.4 will remove the gear lockout for ST so that people can gear up faster in order to participate in new endgame content. i110 is going to be the new i90 come 2.4 so please look forward to it.

My bad then. Must of missed that.