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  1. #1221
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    Odsarzol Que
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lucke View Post
    Isn't Blizzard the company that sells the ability to instantly get to max level with a brand new character with no work? Legit question.
    It is - They're doing it because their design negated and obsoleted every past content. It's done to allow new people to catch up instantly with the new content and expansion if you choose to go that route. XIV is only a year old, while most content is obsolete, it's almost nothing to level in this game and having multiple classes per character actually keeps the leveling content relevant. The Blizzard Cash Shop for WoW has been around for awhile and that's literally the only "dodgy" thing in it - and even then that makes sense for that game. People say: "common sense it will happen!"...yeah, it happens...

    In F2P and P2W MMORPGs...something people keep forgetting about.
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  2. #1222
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mysteran View Post
    Actually, most of it is predicting future outcomes based on past experiences with nearly identical situations. Yea, I guess you can call that an assumption, but it's based on past experience. Like when I burned my hand on the oven when I was a child. Based on that past experience I would predict, should I touch that part of the oven again, I will likely get burned.
    It is a flawed prediction though.

    You could say, one time I backed up and accidentally hit a car. Next time I back up I'll hit a car again. (Doesn't work like this.)

    or

    I could assume that since FFXIV 1.0 was bad that 2.0 would be just as bad, right? What a shock to find it is one the more popular MMOs out on the market.
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    If whatever you're shooting doesn't die after you pump 8, 32 caliber, slugs into it, it's probably a dragon.

  3. #1223
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    Quote Originally Posted by Moqi View Post
    Hopefully they'll start selling raids soon so they'll have more money to develop them and they'll be much better than Coil now... right?
    With cash shop we are getting to the state when paying subscription doesnt give us full access to the game content (everything ingame is content, even vanity items) so I think that gating raids behind money wall is ok. It is SE's right to give us only the content they think we deserve. /sarcasm off
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  4. #1224
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    Ironically - People who keep saying "It will happen" must secretly be stating that ARR is going F2P and has failed..because most "P2W cash shops" happen when a P2P MMO fails and need to relaunch as F2P...

    So if no one is saying that, as someone will no doubt argue, why do people keep arguing what happens in F2P MMOs will happen here?
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  5. #1225
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    I am seriously curious about what people are scared about. Can you give a few examples of items that might brake it?
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  6. #1226
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mysteran View Post
    Actually, most of it is predicting future outcomes based on past experiences with nearly identical situations. Yea, I guess you can call that an assumption, but it's based on past experience. Like when I burned my hand on the oven when I was a child. Based on that past experience I would predict, should I touch that part of the oven again, I will likely get burned.
    so basically what you say is : The player fear for the feature of the game & they come to the conclusion & assumption the game will be like this or that game make by this or that company & host by another this or that company. It is still assumption.

    Dont get me wrong, I will and I am see everything in this thread are assumption until I can see the source, the feature is something we do not know
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    Last edited by Shneibel; 10-23-2014 at 01:55 AM.

  7. #1227
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    Quote Originally Posted by RinchanNau View Post
    ...Source?
    Every business ever?
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  8. #1228
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    Quote Originally Posted by Evenstar View Post
    I am seriously curious about what people are scared about. Can you give a few examples of items that might brake it?
    There's nothing that could "break" the game. But as for what we're worried about? Well go look at the OP, and my reasoning on the Odin mount.
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  9. #1229
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    Quote Originally Posted by Evenstar View Post
    You guys talking about experience, because you say other companies do it too. Can you name one major MMORPG that had a cash shop and added pay to win things?

    Blizzard and adding "boost to 90" after almost 10 years does not count. It is not a pay to win function, but a smart addition to attract new players to the game. They know very well none is going to level 1 to 90 to catch up with their friends before the new expansion.
    Blizzard is also testing out xp pots and some kind of pvp point pot boost i think it was. There is a link in the earlier pages to the article from blizzard.

    so basically what you say is : The player fear for the feature of the game & they come to the conclusion & assumption the game will be like this or that game make by this or that company & host by another this or that company. It is still assumption.
    Pretty much how predictions work. You see how the trend have been in the past, then apply that to the future. And unless you are using untrue basis, the predictions have a high possibility of coming true.
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    Last edited by Amberion; 10-23-2014 at 02:07 AM.

  10. #1230
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    Maybe they will start selling Gil in the cash shop to reduce RMT bots similar to how Diablo 3 did it when Auction House was still available.

    1 million gil stack = $99.99
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