Let's not forget people guaranteeing that people will leave if people cant beat coil and since they're the majority, XIV will die. 1 year+, still many people who hasn't beaten t5 WITH the echoes and nerfs (conflag and dread knight hp was nerfed iirc), still lots of them around apparently.

I beat T5 a couple weeks after 2.2 and it looks like I'm gonna be beating T9 after 2.4 too so I'm definitely not one of those 'hardcore elite savage raider'. Personally find people who are flinging words at the 'elitists' to be at least just as ridiculous with a lot of their arguments.