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    Quote Originally Posted by Merle View Post
    However, i saw that you will also be able to get the items from the previous halloween event. That's a dirty move. On previous events there was a NPC where you could buy the old items with giles... and now they'll be on the cashshop instead? Makes no sense.
    If you did the event and got the achievement you can reclaim it from the salvager like any other event item. Otherwise, Yoshida stated last year it was ONLY like this in order to give the people who did not play FFXIV 1.0 the ability to gain the Summer, halloween and xmas event items as most of the event items in game are from 1.0.

    It was never going to stay that way permanently, which is why the salvager sells them incase you accidentally toss the items (or toss em for space because too lazy to use the armoire.)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tupsi View Post
    If you did the event and got the achievement you can reclaim it from the salvager like any other event item. Otherwise, Yoshida stated last year it was ONLY like this in order to give the people who did not play FFXIV 1.0 the ability to gain the Summer, halloween and xmas event items as most of the event items in game are from 1.0.

    It was never going to stay that way permanently, which is why the salvager sells them incase you accidentally toss the items (or toss em for space because too lazy to use the armoire.)
    Ah, i see. My bad then.

    And yes, Violyre, that's precisely what it scares me: "pay to win". If is just for vanity items... i'm ok with it (my wallet will regret it, though...), but if this becomes "buy X to have an extra buff", etc... i'm out of FFXIV... and it will make me sad since i love this game
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    Last edited by Merle; 10-22-2014 at 07:08 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Merle View Post
    Ah, i see. My bad then.

    And yes, Violyre, that's precisely what it scares me: "pay to win". If is just for vanity items... i'm ok with it (my wallet will regret it, though...), but if this becomes "buy X to have an extra buff", etc... i'm out of FFXIV... and it will make me sad since i love this game
    Personally, even vanity items ( Like wind-Up dolls, craftable clothing etc) Do play a HUGE role on the Market Boards). The more they add anything that should be in the game ( Like the Odin Mount/Wind-up dolls etc), to the Cash Shop, It does take away from the game. Even Vanity items I am not so keen with. Seasonal items? Yeah I suppose that's fine. Anything outside of that is not cool.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Starlord View Post
    Personally, even vanity items ( Like wind-Up dolls, craftable clothing etc) Do play a HUGE role on the Market Boards). The more they add anything that should be in the game ( Like the Odin Mount/Wind-up dolls etc), to the Cash Shop, It does take away from the game. Even Vanity items I am not so keen with. Seasonal items? Yeah I suppose that's fine. Anything outside of that is not cool.
    I can agree with this since you're calm about it. I do think there could be an alternative that would hit three areas at once: letting people sell the items from the shop in-game. This would please the people that don't want to pay real money, the people who may turn to buying gil because they could buy an item and legally sell it for gil, and the RMT because the people second on this list now have a legal method.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Violyre View Post
    I can agree with this since you're calm about it. I do think there could be an alternative that would hit three areas at once: letting people sell the items from the shop in-game. This would please the people that don't want to pay real money, the people who may turn to buying gil because they could buy an item and legally sell it for gil, and the RMT because the people second on this list now have a legal method.
    Mounts as far as I can remember, aren't in the MB, they are all obtainable via quests/Primal battles/Vet Rewards etc. That's how it is structured atm. I like how the game runs that way. Work hard for the items you get in-game . The Odin Mount being buy-able on the cash shop ( exclusively) takes away on what could be a Odin Primal Battle reward ( The fight from the fan fest).

    The wind-up dolls are currently pre 2.4 obtainable via quests/FATEs/Treasure Maps etc. Taking potential Minions that can be sold for good gil for getting it in-game and putting it exclusively in the cash shop, takes away some of the gil a player could have made if they got it.

    Buying it via cash shop then making it sellable in-game is a little unfair. ( do you know how expansive people will put them for?) Anywhere from 5mil-20 mil. Because they are cash shop items bought with real money. What fun is it to instantly get something when you can work for it and feel good about your new item? It is a game after all, I can understand F2P games, they kinda need to do that sort of thing, but P2P everything developed for the game should be obtainable in game somehow.

    Yes I am calm, because yelling doesn't bring anything but grief and arguing. I have no need for that .
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    Quote Originally Posted by Starlord View Post
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    I don't know what people want from Yoshi-P, a blood-pact or something? He already said it'd never be pay to win, he can't do any more than that.

    As for complaining about, "This could have been a free addition to the game." Well, tough (god forbid they try to make extra money). This is how the gaming industry is, now. They can't have a successful Cash Shop if they don't have SOME exclusivity. I mean, for their GRAND opening, they're having what, 4 exclusive items? Let's put this in perspective.

    Yoshi-P said they'd add things like that only on major occasions. 2.4/Grand-Opening is one. 3.0 would be the next. Another Fan Fest during 3.0 somewhere (one more), etc etc. Again, put in perspective, you're sad that out of the massive amount of freebies you get for consecutive months, as well as things obtainable in-game, 5-10 items per expansion (5-ish patches) is somehow unfair to be exclusive?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nominous View Post
    As for complaining about, "This could have been a free addition to the game." Well, tough (god forbid they try to make extra money). This is how the gaming industry is, now. They can't have a successful Cash Shop if they don't have SOME exclusivity. I mean, for their GRAND opening, they're having what, 4 exclusive items? Let's put this in perspective.
    To the OP internet is for overblowness (a word?). To the quote(above poster) bad track record for SE for over a decade of MMO management.
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