Cash shop confirmed

[Amaret]

I remember when the devs used to take the communities opinions into consideration. Not just drop a bomb and say "too late bitches"

They do, the community aren't 50 ppl holding pitchforks about something in the forum.

[IveraIvalice]

They do, the community aren't 50 ppl holding pitchforks about something in the forum.

That doesn't make any sense.
I'm sure they're listening to the feedback of those that don't say anything >.>

[Amaret]

That doesn't make any sense.
I'm sure they're listening to the feedback of those that don't say anything >.>

I'm sure they are listening to a raging mob which represents 0.001% of the games community.

[DefendPopPunk]

I'm sure they are listening to a raging mob which represents 0.001% of the games community.

Maybe. Maybe not.

Yoshi-P mentioned in a presentation at GDC (iirc) that they prefer to hear the feedback from angry customers rather than having quiet customers that walk away from the game unhappy. Anyone complaining about or celebrating the advent of the cash shop (or any change to the game really) is simply giving them what they want: feedback.

It's interesting to note though, that when Yoshi-P was first mentioning the possibility of a cash shop, at the time there were so many threads that were popping up with even the tiniest requests/suggestions followed by "please take my money, SE."

Our feedback does have some amount of impact, more often than not welcomed by the devs, and SE has said in the past that it's appreciated that so many fans even have that much love for this game to make such a fuss over things instead of just up and quitting. No, I don't think this excuses some of the more extreme reactions but you understand what I'm getting at.

[IveraIvalice]

I'm sure they are listening to a raging mob which represents 0.001% of the games community.

If that's the feedback they're getting then yes they should be. Where is the other 99.999% of the gamers feedback from your imaginary statistics?

You can't possibly think that everyone who plays the game is voicing an opinion or even uses the forums. Sure not a huge % of the players use the forums but those are the only ones who care enough to give feedback so that's the community to listen to. You think they just make up fake feedback for those that don't ever use the forums?

"Well a bunch of people on the forums are mad about this, but there's about 80% more players that didn't say anything. Hmm I think I'm gonna make their opinions positive"

[Lux_Rayna]

You can't possibly think that everyone who plays the game is voicing an opinion or even uses the forums. Sure not a huge % of the players use the forums but those are the only ones who care enough to give feedback so that's the community to listen to.

Nope. It may come as a shocker, but a large percentage of players are simply logging in and enjoying the game. Forum feedback is too small a sample size to take seriously.

[MageBlack]

Nope. It may come as a shocker, but a large percentage of players are simply logging in and enjoying the game. Forum feedback is too small a sample size to take seriously.

Good to take inspiration from but not advise on how to run their company.

[Lux_Rayna]

Good to take inspiration from but not advise on how to run their company.

Exactly! A forum expresses an opinion, which is valid and considered, but opinions are available from a wide variety of sources.

[IveraIvalice]

Nope. It may come as a shocker, but a large percentage of players are simply logging in and enjoying the game. Forum feedback is too small a sample size to take seriously.

Then you prove my point. They don't listen to our feedback

[Starlord]

Then you prove my point. They don't listen to our feedback

Then what is the point of the forums exactly?