Correction of prices for optional items

[Nakiamiie]

That's the "replacement" CE 1.0 gift I call it, for not getting my Rites of Passage with my CE. It never came, I emailed SE a dozen times, they pretty much said I'm SOL and they would not do anything about it. NA couldn't get the cup, or the map, an apparently it was too hard for that 3rd party that printed the rites to actually, you know, print all of them and send them out to us.

I know right. It took me several months and dozen e-mails to get mine... and they made a mistake on it.
So, I had to send several more dozen e-mails and wait several month to get one without the mistakes.

Apparently the NA service doesn't flinch if you don't bother them to the point of harassment. Such wonderful customer service policies...

[Alberel]

Well last I checked, Bluebird is still in the game. It's also not in the Cash Shop. Seems like you can still get that "good feeling" if you get one.

Cash Shop exclusives shouldn't be considered as lost potential. Just pretend like they never would have existed without the Cash Shop, because they probably wouldn't have.

Lol what? The very first major cash shop exclusive is the Sleipnir mount which ALREADY existed in the game. So forgive us if we all assume cash shop exclusives are 'lost potential' because the very first one is precisely that. Seriously are you so blind that you can't see they are CUTTING CONTENT to go into the cash shop?

If you want to give SE extra money go ahead and buy shares, just don't drag us down into your unhealthy worship of a business by forcing the rest of us to swallow your cash shop crap.

[Zumi]

Why is the euro price so much cheaper then the $ price?

[SongJoohee]

Well last I checked, Bluebird is still in the game. It's also not in the Cash Shop. Seems like you can still get that "good feeling" if you get one.

Cash Shop exclusives shouldn't be considered as lost potential. Just pretend like they never would have existed without the Cash Shop, because they probably wouldn't have.

Would be a good argument if the first thing they are releasing on the cash shop wasn't a mount that has existed in the game since atleast 2 months before FFXIV was released: http://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/pr/blog/000062.html

[Tyrn]

Would be a good argument if the first thing they are releasing on the cash shop wasn't a mount that has existed in the game since atleast 2 months before FFXIV was released: http://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/pr/blog/000062.html

Looking back at what people were thinking http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/threads/62568

I dunno, I think it'd make Odin less special if everyone could ride around on his horse.

[Ashkendor]

Lol what? The very first major cash shop exclusive is the Sleipnir mount which ALREADY existed in the game.

There's nothing proving that it was meant to go in for an ingame reward.

The only reason people even knew about it was datamining.

[Zohnax]

The assumption of potential content does not equal a direct subtraction of content. There were two statements made during the Fanfest Stream, (which if you support that, but don't support the cashshop, you're a hypocrite), were, "This is for Fanfest only," (In regards to the Odin fight), and, "This is be in the game later on," (during another segment regarding the Odin fight). The lacking of a price for the mount has me skeptical if it'll be cash-shop only. To build on that, there is also the assumption that these minions/mount will not be in the game down the road. (Some people might want fancy items asap whenever they'll come down the road for others, who cares.)

inb4 slippery slope

It was declared that, "the concept is never pay to win," and team is very fond of the subscription model.

inb4 "He's lying!"

Not anyone's problem you have trust issues. Unless the Pay2Win fear begins to become a reality, people need to calm down about cosmetic stuff from the past and maybe a couple new minions.

To end, some of the comments here telling other people not to spend money on the cash shop, but rather should be spending it on stocks, world hunger, etc; that's none of other peoples' businesses and violates the opinions of others on the forums.

[Sammich]

For an item like Slepinir (and the other primal mounts), people will want it for two reasons; vanity or prestige. For some people, these mounts are a mark of either having insanely good luck or the guts to grind out primals until you get one. For others, it's just a case of the horses looking badass or matching their glamour. Even if Slepinir is available in-game as a rare drop from Odin, who (with enough free cash) is going to grind to get him? It won't be a status symbol, since everyone is going to assume you bought it. And if you just want a cool mount and you have five bucks lying around, why would you waste your time running Odin potentially hundreds of times? I wouldn't. So Slepinir might as well have been cash shop exclusive from the start (assuming it isn't), for all the difference it makes. This is why I don't think that having a cash shop item is justified if the in-game equivalent is extremely rare and difficult to obtain.

However, I'm not completely opposed to the cash shop. I think that the seasonal items have a place there, for those who weren't subbed during that time or forgot to do the quests. Assuming you are subbed and remember to participate, you are guaranteed to receive these items. If you missed out and desperately want them, then it's reasonable to be able to do so through the cash shop. The problem with the current implementation is that we were previously able to purchase the items from past events during the current seasonal event of that kind. With the advent of the cash shop, this option is no longer available (which is exactly why people are concerned that content is being cut out of the game to supply the cash shop). If it were simply an option for those who don't want to wait 6 months for the next opportunity to buy these items in game, then I would be very comfortable with the idea. There is no exclusivity on either side that would be a problem.

tl;dr - The current implementation of the cash shop is very worrying to me, but I don't think the cash shop is a bad thing in itself.

[Rayder_Griever]

[QUOTE=Fizzie;2517800]And event items were purchasable in-game before. They always came back around the next time for purchase.

Actually if u didn't beat the seasonal event you cant purchase the items its only if u have beaten it before that you can re purchase them, so your argument is invalid sorry to inform you, but wrong.

[Roris]

Actually if u didn't beat the seasonal event you cant purchase the items its only if u have beaten it before that you can re purchase them, so your argument is invalid sorry to inform you, but wrong.

As pointed out multiple times before, event NPCs from that seasonal event sold gear from that previous event from the year before. For example had the cash shop not been planned, this year's vendor would have sold the 1.0 pumpkin heads along with the ghost costume, just like a year ago the event NPCs also sold the 1.0 pumpkin heads, just like the summer event NPCs from this year sold the 1.0 swimsuits, the 1.0 yukatas and the 2.0 swimsuits, etc. The Calamity Salvager does indeed also sell them once you've completed an event, so that's probably what you're confusing.