[THEORETICAL] Reverse cash shop?

[Edli]

Just leave real life money out of the game ffs. On every mmo with cash shops half the discussion are like this one. You go on archeage and people complaining, theorizing, all about how much money should they pay, fairness, unfairness, is just vanity. I used to chuckle at those discussions because I would just login on ffxiv, pay my sub and never had to worry about all that crap. Just play the game, that's all.

Now the crap is spreading on here too. Half the threads are about that.

[Haeresis]

I think everyone feel like NEED buy something in Cash Shop, its optional... lol.
Anyway, need remember it's just a test, was said in the live letter it will begin in 2.4 but we don't know if SE will remove it later.

[Renik]

Other games can do w/e they want, in fact, most do these things because they are losing players, and if they lose player the game will feel empty and more ppl will leave, so they offer a way for ppl to indirectly pay for other's accounts, and these ppl who pay more, are just paying more to have access to content that wasn't designed to be accessed that way.

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That's absurd, looks to me like an excuse to post a silly meme. RMT is happening i agree, but it is against the rules, some buy gil without punishment, others get banned and the majority avoid it because the risks are not worth it, now offer the possibility to buy a house with real money, and the half of the players will do it, just because it is more convenient.

If you agree with this i recommend you to play archeage with a house as a goal, but without spending money on it, then come back and tell me if it seemed fair, but remember, play like if you were already paying a sub, because that's how ffxiv will be with "legal RMT."

[sirroc]

There is an MMO precedent with this idea.

https://community.eveonline.com/supp...?articleId=495

[Ehayte]

They did this recently in EQ1 and it was fine. We used to /random off monthly subs at raids to increase our attendance, haha.

It is technically pay to win, that one guy is totally right, but it is pay to win with market restrictions. If 10 people want to pay to win (by buying 2nd tier equipment that will make them just barely passable for the end game raid) they can do it relatively easily, because they can sell their RL money for gil at a high premium because supply will be low. If 10,000 people want to pay to win, the gil they get per RL $ will decrease dramatically as supply increases.

So yes, pay to win, but the amount they pay will be chosen by their fellow players that are willing to participate in the market. It actually works pretty well, as long as you keep the best items unobtainable by gil.

[Shougun]

This would let players become legitimized RMT... ;/

Also it would not remove outside RMT, as seen by in the MMOs that have it- it would just make the issue mostly legal.

[DoctorPepper]

I have to agree with the people against this, I do not like this idea since it allows players to purchase gil with RL money. To me that is an extremely unfair system since some people just simply don't make a lot of RL money. It also cheapens the game systems such as crafting/gathering since people can simply ignore them and buy their gil instead of putting in any effort to make it themselves. To me selling subscription time for in game trade-able items is pretty much pay 2 win, we pay a premium subscription for this game so please keep free 2 play and pay 2 win systems out of it.

Also, people saying this would remove RMT are simply wrong and I say so with experience. Rift and Wildstar are both examples of games that allow you to do this and both are still full of RMT and bots.

[MomomiMomi]

This would let players become legitimized RMT... ;/

If people buy gil anyway, I'd prefer they buy items from SE that they will sell to the players. This way SE gets the money, not the RMT we hate so much.

[AlexionSkylark]

PLEX / Chronoscrolls / C.R.E.D.D. are WONDERFUL ideas, and they would be most welcome here too.

Not to mention it would discourage gil selling, and all those annoying spams would disappear.

[AlexionSkylark]

I have to agree with the people against this, I do not like this idea since it allows players to purchase gil with RL money. To me that is an extremely unfair system since some people just simply don't make a lot of RL money. It also cheapens the game systems such as crafting/gathering since people can simply ignore them and buy their gil instead of putting in any effort to make it themselves. To me selling subscription time for in game trade-able items is pretty much pay 2 win, we pay a premium subscription for this game so please keep free 2 play and pay 2 win systems out of it.

Also, people saying this would remove RMT are simply wrong and I say so with experience. Rift and Wildstar are both examples of games that allow you to do this and both are still full of RMT and bots.

Today most people already look down on crafting as a gil source and prefer spiritbonding instead.
Also, the quantity of RMT Spam in Wildstar was WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAY smaller after they implemented C.r.e.d.d.