Cash shop confirmed

[DeceptionsWrath]

You pay extra to get extra stuff, i think it is a positive thing for players and the company itself. Said the same about WoW cash shop. If you want extra mounts you pay extra money big deal xD

How is there "extra stuff"? Are they not funded with our subs? And how is it positive for players? 25 million a month isn't enough money?

[mekia]

How is there "extra stuff"? Are they not funded with our subs? And how is it positive for players? 25 million a month isn't enough money?

Just go back one page and it's answered there .

[tocsin]

How is there "extra stuff"? Are they not funded with our subs? And how is it positive for players? 25 million a month isn't enough money?

For one, how do you get 25 million a month? we have 2 million created accounts. according to ffxivsoul, factoring in inactives, there are maybe 500k active players, and accounting for alts, maybe 300k active subs.

second, your sub does not cover any extras. Reference T&C

I'm reading through every page of this thread and couldn't help myself; I had to respond to this..... person...before I went on.

Yeah, That was my bad. I hadn't factored in sands and oils. They still require soldiery, but removing half that requirement isn't going to help.

in 2.4, though, i110 gear is likely going to be like i90 is now, a baseline.

[Cynric]

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Vanity gear means Vanity gear not the current baseline of gear. There was also a comment you made about Atma being in the shop? Nah man, that's also pay to win. I wanted to reply to you so bad but I ran out of daily posts.

This shop agree with it or not, I'm not making a decision yet, but if Yoshida was serious about what he said for no pay to win. It doesn't matter.

It'll never happen where you see items that give any kind of advantage what so ever. That means, No atma, No i90, No i110, No free levels, No Experience boosters, No Instant 50's ,No relic weapons, No Nexus Light boosters, No Materia, No Alexandrite, No Tomestones, No Allied seals, No GC seals, None of that.

I'm not trying to be mean but, You need to understand where the line is drawn between acceptable and pay to win. Mounts, Minions, old event stuff, that does nothing to anyone, cept maybe collectors. That stuff up there though, even just a tiny tiny advantage is still considered pay to win. You said you deserve to have done 12 hours of farming because you worked for 12 hours? By that logic someone who works double shifts every day and can't even be bothered to play instead of sleep should be able to buy High end raid equipment.

It just doesn't work like that.

As for my thoughts on the Cash shop itself. Eh, A little salty about the Sleipnir, but with no confirmation of whether or not any of this stuff is cash shop exclusive, I will reserve my judgment period.

What harm could there be if these little minions for a couple of bucks come from some maps you'd have to grind as well as the cash shop? Or if Sleipnir comes from Odin Primal.

Farm or buy. That's hardly a reason to complain about something or cancel a sub for.

We just don't know enough yet and I'm not the type to judge before I know what's going on.

[tocsin]

Vanity gear means Vanity gear not the current baseline of gear. There was also a comment you made about Atma being in the shop? Nah man, that's also pay to win. I wanted to reply to you so bad but I ran out of daily posts.

Yeah, it is, and I said it in jest. I come from the EVE online universe, where pay to win doesn't win you anything, if ever if you pay to win you lose even harder.

[Cynric]

Yeah, it is, and I said it in jest. I come from the EVE online universe, where pay to win doesn't win you anything, if ever if you pay to win you lose even harder.

Sorry man I can't tell with you. Just making sure you understand the difference. Because really the difference between them having stuff like a ghost costume from last year and key items for an important questline(basically your ultimate weapon) or baseline gear for current content are pretty big.

[Aegis]

This shop agree with it or not, I'm not making a decision yet, but if Yoshida was serious about what he said for no pay to win. It doesn't matter.

You reckon he was serious about free company summons, personal housing costs, Goobbue mount exclusivity? As much as I like the man he has gone back on his word several times. The thing I've learnt is, that if the potential profits are enough, he will do whatever is required. If this means insta-50s because, let's face it the game begins at 50 (threw up in my mouth a little bit) then we will get insta-50s.

It'll never happen where you see items that give any kind of advantage what so ever. That means, No atma, No i90, No i110, No free levels, No Experience boosters, No Instant 50's ,No relic weapons, No Nexus Light boosters, No Materia, No Alexandrite, No Tomestones, No Allied seals, No GC seals, None of that.

If I were a mean person, I would save this quote.