Cash shop confirmed

[Negotiator]

I think the weirdest thing about this is people are pissed at a Business wanting to make money. Here's a popular argument:

"I should be able to obtain everything in game, I pay a sub fee."

Answer This: Where the hell is my Wind Up Bahamut? My Veteran Reward Minions and Mounts and Barding without needing to sub for a year (over $100 paid) and instead obtainable via quest? My Mog Cap? My Coeurl Mount? My Wind Up Dalamud? Where are these in-game without "using real money"?

The funny thig is? Someone will argue against that despite using that exact argument to argue against the cash shop.

I have some of those things from my sub fee. so it was essentially free. I never paid more than a sub fee.

[Jynx]

I think the weirdest thing about this is people are pissed at a Business wanting to make money.

We wouldn't pay a subscription if we cared about them making money. What I at least care about is how this will impact the creation of content outside the cash shop, let's not pretend it will magically be seperate.

Without a cash shop, people had hope for something like let's say a slepnir mount (While I honestly would rather them just focus on Chocobos). With the existence of the cash shop there is allready one case having been made by the developers themselves for watching game content be cut in favor of placing it into the cash shop.

[Tupsi]

I have some of those things from my sub fee. so it was essentially free. I never paid more than a sub fee.

You have some from pre-ordering and/or buying the Collectors Edition (1.0 or ARR)/digital upgrade. You didn't get it from your sub fee

[Negotiator]

i bought collector's edition 1.0. I was excited back then for some kind of something, i no longer care about. That was a year ago and never paid anything more than a sub since launch.

edit*
The more I think about it, it was the 1.0 CE when 1.0 launched.

[Double]

F2P model not looking so bad now..

Even if it is just vanity items, Almost every MMO developer says the same story and playerbase watches every second, every patch a new item reaches the market that gives hidden power that utterly destroys the meta inside-out which causes rifts through the community like none has ever seen.

Then it's GG NO RE for the games life.

[Fizzie]

I wasn't too bothered about this news as I expect this kind of crap from companies. But now that I think about it, why should we be expected to pay for things that were available in game before? We already pay monthly. Just give us a vendor in-game instead.

[Amberion]

snip!

While true, SE should already know that a game with 500k subs can fund several games. And unless Yoshida has severely twisted the words on how good the game is doing, it should at least have more than that.

Well, I guess for me the whole issue is that subscription and cash shop is two different ways to fund a game. And dipping your fingers in both is a big no for me.

[Fizzie]

Wasn't the cash shop meant to go live today? o.O

[Tupsi]

Just give us a vendor in-game instead.

The minions and mount listed were never available in game before. The past event items were thrown onto NPC for convenience to allow people who didn't play 1.0 to obtain many of them. Each year they throw in new items into events, this is why. Very few if at all any MMO hands out every event item each year if it's ran more than a year, for example I will NOT be getting RO event items from 2005 in 2014, it's thrown onto the cash shop because it's no longer in rotation. Each event that repeats and isn't unique quest wise the NPC sells the items, for example the swimsuits. If you end up tossing your item, the calamity salvager will resell you your panties no problems if you've completed the quest.

[Fizzie]

I was referring to the previous events' gear. Even though they do add new items, there's no reason they couldn't make the old ones available for GIL in-game (much like the Calamity Salvager only not limited to items you'd already owned). We already pay monthly subscriptions, why are we now expected to pay cash for GLAMOUR items of all things!? It's like they WANT people to leave or to encourage real money traders, for goodness sake. Someone mentioned Yoshi had said that subscriptions were the best way for this game as it meant everything was equally accessible for everyone... right.