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    Quote Originally Posted by RedAntares View Post
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    If you read my post which is right above yours you will see that there are some players who actually tries to aquire most of the vanity stuff as their way to progress.

    I for instance couldnt care less if we could buy the best gear from the cash shop. That doesnt matter to me like vanity stuff does.

    But it would upset a lot of ppl just like adding vanity stuff does
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    Well, my apologies for all the people in here with huge complaints about this. I shouldnt even have come in here and tried to address the insanity...

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    Does anyone have the screenshots of those slide for the cashshop items during the Dev Q&A? I would like to review them. Maybe OP can put it up at the first post.
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    Well, that instantly devalues the subscription that used to pay for all content. Now it doesn't.

    So - from here on out, it will just be up to them to decide what a sub covers and what it doesn't. Have fun with that. I would rather just play a F2P game that is upfront about what you pay for than to deal with a company that just makes it up as they go.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ApolloGenX View Post
    Well, that instantly devalues the subscription that used to pay for all content. Now it doesn't.

    So - from here on out, it will just be up to them to decide what a sub covers and what it doesn't. Have fun with that. I would rather just play a F2P game that is upfront about what you pay for than to deal with a company that just makes it up as they go.
    Honestly, I do not want F2P. I rather have subscriptions. I've been on several F2P games, everything just end up terrible boring at the end.

    I believe subscription = better development funding in consistent manner. Rather have a fluctuating development time and money issues in most Free2Play MMOs.

    There is no progression on the game content development (in depth) GW2 has bi-weekly update but those contents only lasted 1 day. That is almost nothing. I get bored after I finished every new content under 1 day. They are funded by cashshop only, all vanity and extra boosters.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MiniTofu View Post
    Honestly, I do not want F2P. I rather have subscriptions. I've been on several F2P games, everything just end up terrible boring at the end.

    I believe subscription = better development funding in consistent manner. Rather have a fluctuating development time and money issues in more Free2Play MMOs.

    There is no progression on the game content development (in depth) GW2 has bi-weekly update but those contents only lasted 1 day. That is almost nothing. I get bored after I finished every new content under 1 day.
    Well, that is fine as long as it is only subscription. Then you know what you are paying for... but when you have a cash shop and players have no idea what is going into the cash shop vs sub content, it makes the point of a subscription (a fixed known cost for content) completely pointless.

    I am wondering how many games had this hybrid model and have lasted very long.....
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    Ultimately it's not Yoshida's call. True he is lead of team but even he answers to people higher than he. It may very well be that he didn't want to add a cash shop but if he was told to do so or find a way to make more money from the game. This may have been his answer instead of increasing sub prices. Far fetched I know but it is possible. Business is business. SE isn't obliged to "give" anyone a thing because they pay a sub. You pay rent for an apartment doesn't mean you own it or the things therein. It is the same principle here. Just because you drop fifteen or better a month doesn't entitle you nor I to a thing other than the time we purchased. And even that is subject to SE's desires.

    That being said as long as it is kept fair to everyone in that nothing that affects progression is sold I am okay with it. Though I am certain I am going to be hated on for using my brain instead of my emotions. So be it. /popcorn
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    Last edited by Seiryuukishi; 10-21-2014 at 04:13 AM.
    Again I saw that under the sun the race is not to the swift, nor the battle to the strong, nor bread to the wise, nor riches to the intelligent, nor favor to those with knowledge, but time and chance happen to them all.

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    I wonder if on the JP forum this subject went viral too.
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    Quote Originally Posted by abzoluut View Post
    I wonder if on the JP forum this subject went viral too.
    It's clear that this thread is hot and popular with up to page 65 already..yet it doesn't show on the popular threads tab for me.
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    Did they say whether houses could be bought in the shop?
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