The Lore Train at Gamer Escape

[Grayve]

Hmnm. I wonder if there where, say, 12 allagans on that space ship/station that managed to get back sometime after the earthquakes, and do some teaching to the lesser races.

Anyway. Totally awesome podcast. So much lore and information... even if some of the 1.0 stuff I never heard of. I really have to find out what "the boy and dragon gay" is now.

[Anonymoose]

I really have to find out what "the boy and dragon gay" is now.

It's a story about a boy who was kidnapped by brigands, who were then attacked by a dragon, leaving the boy injured and alone, where he was beset upon by beasts, but then saved by a smaller, younger dragon. The two became friends and took to the skies together, a legend considered a warm and fuzzy fantasy to, say, Ul'dahns, whereas it's flat out heresy to Ishgardians. The story was a favorite of 1.0 Alchemist Guildmaster's son, Damielliot, who was prone to falling under strange sleeping spells that were harder and harder to rouse him from. Through this boy, you saw an Echo that implied he was the boy from the story, but a lot of it didn't line up - the boy in the story had a past that was nothing like Damielliot's (as far as we knew, assuming the story is even accurate).

Meanwhile, the Conjurer storyline dealt with a misfit conjurer, Morys, brought into the guild despite being an outsider of Gridania. He experiences strange compulsions to return to Ishgard, but something keeps him within the wood. We later learn that his fate is tied to Amberscale Rock, a suspiciously dragon-like hunk of amber. It was heavily implied that Amberscale Rock was a dragon, that Morys was bound to him as an Ishgardian heretic is bound to the Dravanian Horde, and that the Elementals bound the dragon and claimed Morys as a Wildling to prevent the dragon from manipulating him into returning to Ishgard.

I thought the stories might be connected, but didn't really dig into the reading until Hiir noticed the same thing to a more specific degree. We started to theorize that the boy from the Boy and the Dragon Gay was Morys, who fled with his young dragon to the Shroud where they could hide together. Instead, so the theory went, the dragon killed creatures of the wood, and broke Morys' mind - and the Elementals intervened.

This interview, though, suggests that these were two separate series of events entirely... and yet neither Amberscale Rock nor The Boy and the Dragon Gay, it seems, have been left behind in A Realm Reborn... <ChamberlainHmmm.wav>

[Grayve]

I and yet neither Amberscale Rock nor The Boy and the Dragon Gay, it seems, have been left behind in A Realm Reborn... <ChaimberlainHmmm.wav>

Stupid 1.0 stuff! Why didn't I play? (review scores, that's why...) Anyway, Amberscale Rock is not in the game anymore? I thought I had just missed it and was going to go searching. Boo!

[Anonymoose]

Stupid 1.0 stuff! Why didn't I play?

The game was in such a state that some of us had little else to do but dig into the lore, one of the few things that made it obvious that, despite a disastrous launch, the game had potential, ambition, and people who truly loved it and would fight to save it. No one could be blamed for thinking that wasn't going to work out... though I literally just watched a full expo hall sing as one along to Under the Weight as performed by The Primals and Fernehalwas, so Thal's balls did Team XIV show them, eh!?

Anyway, Amberscale Rock is not in the game anymore? I thought I had just missed it and was going to go searching. Boo!

"...neither Amberscale Rock nor The Boy and the Dragon Gay <...> have been left behind in A Realm Reborn..."

You can go see Amberscale Rock for yourself right now. Central Shroud X11 Y20 ish. Go go!

[Grayve]

No one could be blamed for thinking that wasn't going to work out... though I literally just watched a full expo hall sing as one along to Under the Weight as performed by The Primals and Fernehalwas, so Thal's balls did Team XIV show them, eh!?

That sounds AMAZING! And thanks for the cords. To the aetherite!

[Torquil]

Hmnm. I wonder if there where, say, 12 allagans on that space ship/station that managed to get back sometime after the earthquakes, and do some teaching to the lesser races.

I think The Twelve predate the 4th Astral Era.

[Grayve]

Aha. I had seen the Amberscale rock before. I just never considered it 'dragon' shaped. I can see it now, though.

[Deli]

The game was in such a state that some of us had little else to do but dig into the lore, one of the few things that made it obvious that, despite a disastrous launch, the game had potential, ambition, and people who truly loved it and would fight to save it. No one could be blamed for thinking that wasn't going to work out... though I literally just watched a full expo hall sing as one along to Under the Weight as performed by The Primals and Fernehalwas, so Thal's balls did Team XIV show them, eh!?



"...neither Amberscale Rock nor The Boy and the Dragon Gay <...> have been left behind in A Realm Reborn..."

You can go see Amberscale Rock for yourself right now. Central Shroud X11 Y20 ish. Go go!

/bearhug + /feed Mooses

Good thing that i still have enough cookies that i didn't /nom them all.... or i already did that these 2 are just empty boxes.... i got ambushed and didn't have time to check my cookie stock...

[NoloeTazier]

I think The Twelve predate the 4th Astral Era.

The "original" story is that the Twelve were beings living in Eorzea, they lived in prosperity and then the "wandering tribes" began appearing into Eorzea (dunno what race the tribes are). The Twelve allowed them to settle and live and share in the prosperity. Eventually the wandering tribes began to war with one another, watching this the Twelve left (maybe driven out?) Eorzea. This ushered in the 1st Umbral Era. Currently that's all we know, how it was passed down we don't know. Really everything before the Allagan Empire is unknown, the Allagans themselves could have began and wrote/spoke about such history making them the creators. We simply don't know at the moment.

[Grayve]

Just wonder if you looked over the Diablos end of fight scene. Ferne hinted at something different there compared to other fights. What did you guys make of it?