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  1. #11
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    The more revenue the cash shop generates, the more they will divert time/resources to creating more cash shop items and pressuring players to buy from it. You would be naive to even hope for otherwise.
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    Unless they actually hire new people with the money, it can only take away from development of non-cash shop content.

    Extra revenue doesn't suddenly grant them more time or ideas.
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  3. #13
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tsukino View Post
    Unless they actually hire new people with the money, it can only take away from development of non-cash shop content.

    Extra revenue doesn't suddenly grant them more time or ideas.
    Half of the announced items were in the game already, as rewards or purchases for old events. They could keep selling them for cheap on vendors as they have in the past, or make some extra cash on the side selling them in the item shop.

    The other half? Items that were probably already designed but they didn't have a good way to implement them without making up an excuse to have them appear. Other Scion minions were available as Anniversary items, but it wouldn't make much sense to include them elsewhere. What else should we do; wait for the 2nd year anniversary? No thanks. I'd rather buy them now.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fyrebrand View Post
    The more revenue the cash shop generates, the more they will divert time/resources to creating more cash shop items and pressuring players to buy from it. You would be naive to even hope for otherwise.
    I don't think I could have said it better.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dotsusama View Post
    Half of the announced items were in the game already, as rewards or purchases for old events. They could keep selling them for cheap on vendors as they have in the past, or make some extra cash on the side selling them in the item shop.

    The other half? Items that were probably already designed but they didn't have a good way to implement them without making up an excuse to have them appear. Other Scion minions were available as Anniversary items, but it wouldn't make much sense to include them elsewhere. What else should we do; wait for the 2nd year anniversary? No thanks. I'd rather buy them now.
    I should have used different wording I guess. What I meant was that it could never add to the game unless they used it to get more people to develop things for the game.

    In a highly theoretical sense, as you pointed out, it could have a zero-effect.
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  6. #16
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eagleheart View Post
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    Literally everything about this post is flat out wrong. Take a business class or something before you speak in absolutes about these kinds of things.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DefendPopPunk View Post
    Literally everything about this post is flat out wrong. Take a business class or something before you speak in absolutes about these kinds of things.
    Yeah that was pretty funny to read lol
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    Quote Originally Posted by Parz3val View Post
    This could end a lot of people's worries about "padding your wallets" and the like...

    How about tell us how you intend to use the proceeds, SE?
    Unless if you're an investor of SE, is it really of your concern? It always baffles me to see that people in MMO's first of all already expect their subscription fees to directly go back into development of that particular MMO. Sure it'll be used to cover overhead expenses. But parts of it may just as well be used to fund development of e.g. Final Fantasy XV.
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    Are you insane!? Of course our subscriptions should be used primarily to further develop this game! Obviously SE is a large corporation and some funds may be diverted, but it is not at all unreasonable to assume that the majority of subscription funds go toward development of this project only! I would be shocked if more than 30% of funds were diverted elsewhere.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nutz View Post
    Are you insane!? Of course our subscriptions should be used primarily to further develop this game! Obviously SE is a large corporation and some funds may be diverted, but it is not at all unreasonable to assume that the majority of subscription funds go toward development of this project only! I would be shocked if more than 30% of funds were diverted elsewhere.
    Am I insane? Or are you perhaps merely being ignorant for not expecting companies to divert more cash into newer projects? Titles such as Kingdom Hearts III, Final Fantasy XV and the marketing for Tomb Raider are multi-million dollar projects. Money for that always comes out of other projects. Just like as to how the FFXIV development initially will have been funded by profits made by other titles than just FFXIV as well.
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