What Portion of Cash-Shop Proceeds go toward Development

[Gemma]

To me this kinda explains why they only give a couple hairstyles every patch..
I can see them putting a bunch of hairstyles and what not up on the cash shop -_-

Sucks too if the cash shop goes in the direction I think its going I might just only have to sub when new storyline comes out,
not about to get sucked into buying cool looking hairstyles when I could spend my money on other things irl

[Parz3val]

You're a stakeholder because you're a player?!?!

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

DEFINITION of 'Stakeholder'

"A party that has an interest in an enterprise or project. The primary stakeholders in a typical corporation are its investors, employees, customers and suppliers. However, modern theory goes beyond this conventional notion to embrace additional stakeholders such as the community, government and trade associations."

Therefore you concede you have no right to this information, and the battle is won. <o.o Thanks for the laughs.

I never argued whether I personally had the right to such information.

Where are you getting this from? Quote it.

I *asked* for it... please tell me you know the difference between 'asking for something' and 'demanding it'.

[Eagleheart]

DEFINITION of 'Stakeholder'

"A party that has an interest in an enterprise or project. The primary stakeholders in a typical corporation are its investors, employees, customers and suppliers. However, modern theory goes beyond this conventional notion to embrace additional stakeholders such as the community, government and trade associations."

*still laughing*

Modern theory also puts forth that a business exists to provide a service, and your typical intellectual economist a la Krugman believes that profit ought to be something outlawed.

It's thinking like this that makes watching the economic decline of the West so damned amusing.

But what do I care!

You conceded my point

you won't get your information

so everyone's happy!

Let's all go out for pizza and laugh like hyenas!

[Nictwist]

that was a very entertaining read, i thank the three of you for it.


ps
Parz3val your memes were pretty damn funny

[Xairos]

That Eagleheart guy has the right of it. I am a stakeholder in Sony, as i have a ps3, but only in the area of having options. As an investor i would he a stakeholder for a monetary (and much more important) aspect. As a customer, I only have a stake insofar as having an option of a service. If Sony disappears, then I go elsewhere. No money lost as far as investments are concerned. That's is the difference i think he was alluding to. Its a semantic argument.

[DefendPopPunk]

That Eagleheart guy has the right of it. I am a stakeholder in Sony, as i have a ps3, but only in the area of having options. As an investor i would he a stakeholder for a monetary (and much more important) aspect. As a customer, I only have a stake insofar as having an option of a service. If Sony disappears, then I go elsewhere. No money lost as far as investments are concerned. That's is the difference i think he was alluding to. Its a semantic argument.

Yeah, I saw this for what it was and that's why I didn't hinge the entire argument on the definition. Still, when you say something like "you're a stakeholder because you're a player?" as if it wasn't true, that's where I came in and said that that is wrong. Stakeholders come in all different flavors in terms of involvement, but I don't see how calling a customer a stakeholder (which is true) is something that is laughable.

Regardless, it doesn't change the fact that I said the income statements are available for anyone to browse for whatever reason they wish, but then he wants to go into specifics about per unit costs and such, about which I never had anything to say in any of my posts. Well, initially I may have said his whole post, but what I meant was the blanket statements and absolutes. I do agree that per unit costs are not necessarily anyone's business, and I never argued against that.

[Inflorescence]

What the hell? Are the mods seeing this? I have literally never seen such an arrogant, childish argument between strangers this side of 4chan.


The past three pages aside, if SE decided to raise all their subscription prices by a dollar, I'd definitely pay it. I don't mind paying for this game, and if I think that putting a pumpkin head on my character is worth literally less than a six inch sub at Subway, then I'm totally going to do it. (And I'm totally going to do it)

Has nobody seen the kind of F2P cash shops that give you things like "Look at this badass sword! Rent it for three days for $1, or three months for $3!" This seems a lot less of a cash grab to me than it does a way to justify putting back in content that people may have missed.

Literally everything that was shown in the Optional Item shop was seasonal, or in the case of Sleipnir, a result of the fanfest. (Except the Scion minions, I don't really know where they're from.)

[Shadowedge]

Yes, because the only product that SE makes is FFXIV. The most-likely assumption would be that any increase in revenue would go toward future R&D for not only this game, but for every project they have at the company. It's a bit ridiculous to demand a company to share budgeting plans with the general (in this case, non-understanding) public.

[Parz3val]

People just wanna know if their cash will benefit the game in any way rather than detract from it.

[Toodles]

It would be nice to be reassured.

Though sadly I think the answer is it'll most likely hinder FFXIV development.