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  1. #71
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    Alberel's Avatar
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    Alberel Lindurst
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    Quote Originally Posted by Beebles View Post
    Anything I can do to support the game! As long as its vanity only I am cool with it, just don't cut back on the ingame stuff as a result!
    The halloween stuff and selipnir mount are both already in game. The content is being cut to sell extra. Does that count as cutting back on ingame stuff?
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  2. #72
    Player Dwill's Avatar
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    Elenath Lanthir
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alberel View Post
    Heh please show us a game that introduced a cash shop more than 1 year ago that hasn't gone P2W?

    I've never seen one. Every MMO that has every introduced a cash shop says it's cosmetic only and every single one eventually introduces P2W stuff. I challenge you to prove me wrong.
    What do I win ?

    http://us.battle.net/wow/en/
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  3. #73
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    Chambers's Avatar
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    The Liar
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    Dark Knight Lv 60
    so why are we paying a sub then if we have a cash shop anyways?
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  4. #74
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    Faye Saotome
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alberel View Post
    Heh please show us a game that introduced a cash shop more than 1 year ago that hasn't gone P2W?

    I've never seen one. Every MMO that has every introduced a cash shop says it's cosmetic only and every single one eventually introduces P2W stuff. I challenge you to prove me wrong.
    Let me remind you that all those MMOs also went F2P.
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  5. #75
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    Backflippinbadger's Avatar
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    Drysfoet Bhaldaegsyn
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    Gilgamesh
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    Marauder Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Alberel View Post
    The halloween stuff and selipnir mount are both already in game. The content is being cut to sell extra. Does that count as cutting back on ingame stuff?
    I really don't think it does at all for seasonal items. If you were there, you have em. I'm conflicted on sleipnir since we don't know any other ways to get it.
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  6. #76
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dwill View Post
    they have a lvl boost to 90 for sale. I don't think you win anything.
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  7. #77
    Player Dwill's Avatar
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    Elenath Lanthir
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chambers View Post
    they have a lvl boost to 90 for sale. I don't think you win anything.
    Yes, because a level boost is total P2W scenario. Do you even know what P2W is or are you just riding the bandwagon of people who just discovered the word ?
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  8. #78
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    Sho86's Avatar
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    Koe Kazham
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dwill View Post
    Yes, because a level boost is total P2W scenario. Do you even know what P2W is or are you just riding the bandwagon of people who just discovered the word ?
    Rogue/Ninja coming out, or even Dark Knight, Samurai etc. Whatever, doesn't matter. if that option was in this game, it is pay-to-win. You are skipping everything that the majority of players have to grind through to get there first. Sadly its comments like these why cash shop stuff is allow to get out of hand.
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  9. #79
    Player Dwill's Avatar
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    Elenath Lanthir
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sho86 View Post
    Rogue/Ninja coming out, or even Dark Knight, Samurai etc. Whatever, doesn't matter. if that option was in this game, it is pay-to-win. You are skipping everything that the majority of players have to grind through to get there first. Sadly its comments like these why cash shop stuff is allow to get out of hand.
    With "Ifs" you could change the world. Good try with the made up scenario though.
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  10. #80
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    Rennah's Avatar
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    J'rhal Tia
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    Balmung
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    Bard Lv 80
    I'm finding this pretty...frustrating, to put it lightly. Everyone keeps saying "don't buy it then!" but...what if you want it? You shouldn't HAVE to buy it. As it is we're already paying monthly subscriptions; not even vanity items should be thrown into a pay-extra-if-you-want-it service, given the amount we're already putting in. I'm sure anyone who has money to throw around on a whim is fine with it, but that's certainly not the entire player base. A cash shop is one thing in an F2P game, but when it's subscription-based? You're already getting our money. Just put this stuff in the game where we can all get it with no trouble. There's no need to demand more money. It doesn't sit well.
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