Apparently trying to help is being rude

[Apricoth]

I find that anyone that decides to offer unsolicited advise to be the ultimate backseat driver of <insert class of preference here> - it is rude. Especially when it's coming from someone I do not know at all. It pisses me off. I personally do not appreciate it. If I need help or advise, I ask for it.

[SeraviEdalborez]

I find that anyone that decides to offer unsolicited advise to be the ultimate backseat driver of <insert class of preference here> - it is rude. Especially when it's coming from someone I do not know at all. It pisses me off. I personally do not appreciate it. If I need help or advise, I ask for it.

It's rude to tell someone they're driving 20 mph in the fast lane?

[Apricoth]

It's rude to tell someone they're driving 20 mph in the fast lane?

Do not be silly. Life outside of games and black mage rotations are not synonymous. Get real.

[DefendPopPunk]

Do not be silly. Life outside of games and black mage rotations are not synonymous. Get real.

Real people play video games, so there's no reason not to expect similar results when interacting with them (especially given the example). I mean, your argument could be used to the OP's benefit, and say "well in real life you might exercise tact when offering advice, but this is a game, and is therefore not subject to the same social rules."

[Apricoth]

Real people play video games, so there's no reason not to expect similar results when interacting with them (especially given the example). I mean, your argument could be used to the OP's benefit, and say "well in real life you might exercise tact when offering advice, but this is a game, and is therefore not subject to the same social rules."

I will take advise from people I know better than from complete strangers. It is the strangers with the back seat driving on said classes that are pushing the line. Driving and playing back mage are completely different things. One deals with safety and following the law and the other is with a game and whether or not a person is doing enough damage. They are not the same thing - you are bringing an element into the conversation that throws sands into the eyes of the discussion and has nothing to do with one or the other. Come up with a better analogy of real life to playing a black mage and then perhaps I will see your point.

[Apricoth]

I find that anyone that decides to offer unsolicited advise to be the ultimate backseat driver of <insert class of preference here> - it is rude. Especially when it's coming from someone I do not know at all. It pisses me off. I personally do not appreciate it. If I need help or advise, I ask for it.

Defend, please reread what I initially stated. I have not back tracked to anything. Also, it was you that decided to introduce a real life element to an in-game issue brought by the OP. I was answering to the OP's commentary within the scope of the game. How people respond to criticism outside of a game I could care less as that has no bearing on this topic in my opinion. Do what you may, say what you will but no thanks to your 20mph analogy. But I will concede that people will respond as they will when it comes to criticism - however, it is that individual's responsibility to deliver the criticism in a diplomatic way and know to the personality they speak to if the said individual hopes to have that criticism well received.

[DefendPopPunk]

Defend, please reread what I initially stated. I have not back tracked to anything. Also, it was you that decided to introduce a real life element to an in-game issue brought by the OP. I was answering to the OP's commentary within the scope of the game. How people respond to criticism outside of a game I could care less as that has no bearing on this topic in my opinion. Do what you may, say what you will but no thanks to your 20mph analogy. But I will concede that people will respond as they will when it comes to criticism - however, it is that individual's responsibility to deliver the criticism in a diplomatic way and know to the personality they speak to if the said individual hopes to have that criticism well received.

Nah, I wasn't the one who introduced that analogy, I just took issue with people saying "games =/= real life" as some kind of way to shut someone's opinion out of a discussion. But you hit the nail on the head with your last line, because that's what I was getting at anyway. It isn't the situation that you give advice in that matters, but how you give it.

[Alukah]

I find that anyone that decides to offer unsolicited advise to be the ultimate backseat driver of <insert class of preference here> - it is rude. Especially when it's coming from someone I do not know at all. It pisses me off. I personally do not appreciate it. If I need help or advise, I ask for it.

Please no, we don't need more players with that poor attitude here, be grateful someone takes their time to let you know you are doing something wrong (assuming they don't write it as poorly thought as the OP) you don't know you need advice when you don't even know you are doing something wrong.

If you don't want criticism don't play online games, don't interact with other people.