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    Quote Originally Posted by Abriael View Post
    Someone has missed the fact that guildleves and behests are nothing else than grinding mobs.

    Don't want to grind mobs? Do quests and raids.
    Man, I am not even going to bother acknowledging your backwards arguments after this post. You're clearly willing to blindly defend this game no matter how broken it is for people who are in a different situation than you.

    Do you have an active Linkshell?
    Do you have 1 or more rank 50 classes?

    If the answer to both those questions is "yes" then you don't have a clue what it is like for people who don't have those two things.

    I'm glad you're enjoying the game and that with the resources you have (which not everyone else does) grinding is enjoyable. But please stop pretending that your experience is "right" and everyone who doesn't share that experience is "wrong."

    There can be no balance without acknowledging that there are many kinds of players, each with their own preferred playstyles and limitations or lack thereof.

    Simply telling someone they are playing wrong for not enjoying the game, is ignoring glaring flaws with the game. If you can't see that someone who has been logging in alone once in awhile to grind SP doesn't have the same resources as someone who is rank 50 on several classes in an active LS, then just don't bother to comment.

    Cause guess what, if this game ever is going to get new players they will be more like the former example than you. If the game is not appealing to someone who has spent the greater part of a year trying to enjoy it, if it is punishing on people who don't have a large established LS and multiple high rank jobs - it won't be enjoyable to the new players this game desperately needs.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LuxLex View Post
    Man, I am not even going to bother acknowledging your backwards arguments after this post.
    There's nothing "backwards" in stating the obvious. Killing mobs and nothing else is grinding. Behest and Guildleves are nothing else than that.

    You're clearly willing to blindly defend this game no matter how broken it is for people who are in a different situation than you.
    I simply have the ability to assess the quality of a game, which quite obviously you lack. Not whining like a kid because of flawed perception and tunnel vision has nothing to do with "blindly defending". So does knowing the meaning of the verb "broken", which obviously you don't.

    Do you have an active Linkshell?
    You know, active linkshells have open to everyone. If you don't have one only two things come to mind. Either you're antisocial, in which case single player games may be more to your liking, or your whining has become so unpleasant on yourserver that no linkshell wants you. In this case, you reap what you sow.

    Do you have 1 or more rank 50 classes?
    Makes ABSOLUTELY no difference. This is an open ended game. Not many people stop at their first 50. I'm currently actively leveling Marauder and Conjurer, which are a LONG way off 50.

    If any, it's harder than for one that's now leveling his first 50, because i alrady did all the previously implemented quests and story quests, getting squat for them, while new players can get SP from them now, and a lot of it.

    If the answer to both those questions is "yes" then you don't have a clue what it is like for people who don't have those two things.
    Unfortunately for your argument, the only ones that don't have a clue are the ones like you and kensei that didn't yet experience even the first half of the leveling curve and think they can teach people that experienced it fully multiple times.

    There can be no balance without acknowledging that there are many kinds of players, each with their own preferred playstyles and limitations or lack thereof.
    Sorry to burst a big bubble, but encouraging mindless repetition like doing behest over and over and nothing else is simply bad game design.
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    Last edited by Abriael; 07-24-2011 at 07:35 AM.