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    Quote Originally Posted by Exstal View Post
    There shouldn't be a story behind Coil. Then there is no reason to have Coil lite. Here's to hoping they don't make the same mistake in 3.0 and thus saving us the trouble of all these threads popping up again and again..and again.
    Except the problem is that there IS a story behind them. A rather massive one given how they explaned the change between 1.0 and 2.0. That simple fact means that for Coil there SHOULD be some Story version that players can do to see the story unfold. Locking it behind high level raiding is wrong. *Disclaimer* I am on T9 myself right now, so don't think this is me wanting a handout because I can't beat Twin.
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    I don't think many of us would agree that its unnecessary to have a story-mode version. Quite the opposite in fact. I wont deny that I would love to get my friends together and attempt to beat coil T5-9 if only for their sakes, but sadly, Im both extremely sick of attempting it, and I also play at a time when the majority of folks are just about to go to bed, so this would not work for me unfortunately.
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    Zumi Kasumi
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    Is this really a problem? Seems like a small minority hasn't beat T5 which is the casual only play like a 1-2 hours a week type player. Yoshi P originally planned for the echo buff to go up to 30% but he stopped at 20% because they said they were happy with the number of people clearing T5 that they didn't need to make it any easier.
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    Why don't SE just hand out the story cutscene on the inn for player whose not really into scob. But only make it so after a certain percentage of server population had clear the contents needed to unlock the cutscene. That way nobody will be left out. The raiders can get their gear and the casuals can get their story.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zumi View Post
    Is this really a problem? Seems like a small minority hasn't beat T5 which is the casual only play like a 1-2 hours a week type player. Yoshi P originally planned for the echo buff to go up to 30% but he stopped at 20% because they said they were happy with the number of people clearing T5 that they didn't need to make it any easier.
    I hope theyre also happy with ppl who left the game cause they cant stand being bash by eletists while waiting to experience the history.
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  6. #46
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    Quote Originally Posted by Metatronn View Post
    I hope theyre also happy with ppl who left the game cause they cant stand being bash by eletists while waiting to experience the history.
    If someone is an elite player they for sure will not be doing T5. Elite players are done with 2nd coil in an hour on Tuesday and pretty much don't need to log in the rest of the week and sure wouldn't be found farming T5. Most of the people trying to do T5 are the casual ones who have not cleared it, so you really only have to blame other casuals for being rude if people are being rude in T5 DF.
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    Last edited by Zumi; 10-17-2014 at 03:46 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ruenis View Post
    Why don't SE just hand out the story cutscene on the inn for player whose not really into scob. But only make it so after a certain percentage of server population had clear the contents needed to unlock the cutscene. That way nobody will be left out. The raiders can get their gear and the casuals can get their story.


    You've totally missed the point of the OP. Figures since you're the type to call people casuals like were a sub species of player or something.
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  8. #48
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    Quote Originally Posted by Exstal View Post
    I used to think that there should be a story Coil, but now I believe there just shouldn't be any meaningful story attached to end-game raids. Then there would be no reason to create a second tier of raid for people who can't find the time to create or join a static or pug with skilled players.

    So I say "no"
    i think i agree with this, after coil, hopefully whatever end-game raid is introduced next will have a story that has nothing to do with the main scenario
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wyrmnus View Post


    You've totally missed the point of the OP. Figures since you're the type to call people casuals like were a sub species of player or something.
    Well, i haven't done the t5 myself so that make me casual as well. It did not mean to be derogatory (at least on my post). Think of it, everbody can get what they want. The raiders can distinguish themself even more by unlocking the story for their server, and This game lore does not go to waste because only a fraction of player base actualy finish the contents. Everybody wins
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    I think once the implementation of the next raid happens when ever that will be they should add a Easy Mode coil. That way ample time has passed. Hardest part about T5 now is getting people way over geared and pushing certain phases too fast.
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