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    No.
    The mechanics are all incredibly easy to understand after seeing them once or twice, especially with the bajillion guides out there. This doesn't need to happen, Echo is broken enough and I hate how First Coil was ruined with it.

    Coil is not for everyone, either rise to the challenge or do one of the myriad other things to do in the game.
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    Zara Diaspora
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    As someone who has given up for the past month or so on Coils 6 - 9, we don't need a boost. The mechanics first off are still what kill people, this is why I just did a Titan HM and we ended up with 4 people left...

    T5 is fine, there is no need for it to be lowered anymore, as the iLV rises the stressful runs will become easier to handle. You're asking for mechanics to be adjusted, which in that case just..give you the win. Skip the fight and jump right into the cutscene.

    It's difficult to progress without a static..I don't have one because I don't have 5 hours to dedicate every night or weekends because I have stuff to do. This is the one thing hardcore players or players who have a set time period to play and choose to static have.

    You want to fix people not progressing in coil to 9? Change the people..this is why I can't complete Ramuh or Turn 9..there's always someone who doesn't want to do things the way they should..checking the box "slow and easy" doesn't work. Let the hardcores have their 3rd turn, I've been so busy with casual content that I'm okay with waiting for an echo boost to 9.
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    Last edited by Leigaon; 10-17-2014 at 09:25 PM.

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    Adam Fylrmyn
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    Quote Originally Posted by Leigaon View Post
    It's difficult to progress without a static..I don't have one because I don't have 5 hours to dedicate every night or weekends because I have stuff to do. This is the one thing hardcore players or players who have a set time period to play and choose to static have.
    Sorry to nitpick on your post. I'm generally fine with what you said with the exception of the one above in the quote. A static is made up entirely of like-minded players who can agree to a certain time schedule they can work with. I know, not my business - but this is something I'd like to address to everyone. Heck, I know a static in Cactuar that runs for only an hour a day, two times a week, and they're already working on T9. This is just something I want to point out since people seems to relate statics to extreme commitment.

    Though, a story mode for coil would be nice for people who can't raid because of erratic schedules that prevent them from picking a specific time to play. At the same time, how much worth would the cutscenes become? I see the pretty cutscenes as a bonus reward for clearing the content. I get giddy when I am presented with one I have never seen, but I can understand that people just want the story without the stress. But this devalues the experience in my perspective. I'm not against a story mode - it would be really nice for everyone to learn the history of Eorzea. This is coming from someone who is currently working on T9, and I can say that it doesn't matter if there is a story mode for those who enjoy lore.
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    Last edited by AdamFyi; 10-17-2014 at 10:39 PM.

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    Shichi Mamura
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    I used to think that there should be a story Coil, but now I believe there just shouldn't be any meaningful story attached to end-game raids. Then there would be no reason to create a second tier of raid for people who can't find the time to create or join a static or pug with skilled players.

    So I say "no"
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    There are always going to be those that find it too hard or those that find it too easy, and there will always be those that have the time to play alot and those that dont. The fact is I hate to say it but not everyone's schedule permits the building and maintenance of a static. I know many many people who work shifts. And those shifts change at any given week, this makes getting in a static nearly impossible. I agree with the OP that Coil needs a story only version for those that just want to experience the story. HOWEVER, I do believe that if a light/story-mode version were to come out, it should be much like the story line primals. It should have absolutely no gear rewards and be purely for storyline completion. That way those who do the normal coil version won't feel like their accomplishments were for nothing. (Athough this may also mean it will likely need to be implemented like a Duty Roullette so that people still do it and new players can still get completion.)

    P.S> Numenor beat me to it
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    Last edited by Vespar; 10-17-2014 at 02:26 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Exstal View Post
    I used to think that there should be a story Coil, but now I believe there just shouldn't be any meaningful story attached to end-game raids. Then there would be no reason to create a second tier of raid for people who can't find the time to create or join a static or pug with skilled players.

    So I say "no"
    i think i agree with this, after coil, hopefully whatever end-game raid is introduced next will have a story that has nothing to do with the main scenario
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    They're making a coil 2 lite by adding echo. You can burn turn 6 and ignore some of the mechanics already. Turn 7 most teams need to hold back on DPS... Turn 8/9 are DPS checks and DPS checks will be gone with echo.
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    Last edited by Elim; 10-17-2014 at 02:23 PM. Reason: oops...I meant "coil 2" not "turn 2"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Elim View Post
    They're making a coil 2 lite by adding echo. You can burn turn 6 and ignore some of the mechanics already. Turn 7 most teams need to hold back on DPS... Turn 8/9 are DPS checks and DPS checks will be gone with echo.
    Read the OP.

    Essentially says Echo won't suffice.
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    Last edited by Parz3val; 10-17-2014 at 02:48 PM.

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    I rather think they should do a "Story-mode" Coil for everyone to at least see the lore behind the Calamity. Make it 4-man, no loot, similar to how the Primals are introduced into the main-story quest. The same cut scenes can be kept, just massivly tone down the difficulty, and let people out gear it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Numenor1379 View Post
    I rather think they should do a "Story-mode" Coil for everyone to at least see the lore behind the Calamity. Make it 4-man, no loot, similar to how the Primals are introduced into the main-story quest. The same cut scenes can be kept, just massivly tone down the difficulty, and let people out gear it.
    We all know what happened when someone suggested that on here. * whispers * They want to secure their... SUPERIORITY over us all. THEY NEED IT!
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