The Final Coil of Bahamut Preview

[Trixxy]

Statics shouldn't be needed? We're talking about endgame challenges here, they were made because people want them. Wouldn't be much of a challenge if you could clear that with any pug just like your lv50 dungeons, ST and so on. Statics weren't once enforced but people figured out that the easiest way to beating difficult content is finding people who are committed enough to take on those challenges. Too difficult for you in particular? - don't run coil.

I'd grow tired of dungeons I can run while half asleep quite quick and so would many others. @statics are everything that's wrong with ff14

[logicallysynced]

Statics shouldn't be needed? We're talking about endgame challenges here, they were made because people want them. Wouldn't be much of a challenge if you could clear that with any pug just like your lv50 dungeons, ST and so on. Statics weren't once enforced but people figured out that the easiest way to beating difficult content is finding people who are committed enough to take on those challenges. Too difficult for you in particular? - don't run coil.

I'd grow tired of dungeons I can run while half asleep quite quick and so would many others. @statics are everything that's wrong with ff14

Classic example of this is Labyrinth of the Ancients and Syrcus Tower.

[Seibah]

Statics shouldn't be needed? We're talking about endgame challenges here, they were made because people want them. Wouldn't be much of a challenge if you could clear that with any pug just like your lv50 dungeons, ST and so on. Statics weren't once enforced but people figured out that the easiest way to beating difficult content is finding people who are committed enough to take on those challenges. Too difficult for you in particular? - don't run coil.

I'd grow tired of dungeons I can run while half asleep quite quick and so would many others. @statics are everything that's wrong with ff14

The inherent problem with statics is more that it divides people into cliques and in many cases leads to people being trampled over in order for other people to progress in the game. They break up, reform, kick members and often expect unreal time obligations. You can't play with your friends (much of the time) because they're obligated to be somewhere else, your schedule doesn't match with the rest of the raid, etc, etc. Realize that if you're raiding with a close group of buddies prior to making a static you lucked out because that's not a realistic option for most people.

Also coil's difficulty becomes pretty irrelevant after a few months when people just know the fights. It's silly to have like 2.3 or 2.1 come out and still have coil under lock when people are easily one shotting stuff like Rafflesia, ADS enrage, and The Avatar. Ultimately the problem is less with the difficulty than it is with the weekly lockout; if we could have large groups of people in FCs or Coil LSes switch out members more easily or go multiple times a week, it would go a long way to making the MMO more social and allowing more people to access the content.

Also some the fights are dumb because they're designed in a way that requires ts/mumble/etc to at least listen in, which is an outside program. I'm fine using it myself, but you know there's a problem with the way a fight is designed when there's no form of in game communication to make it possible to realistically win.

[Archulak]

Also some the fights are dumb because they're designed in a way that requires ts/mumble/etc to at least listen in, which is an outside program. I'm fine using it myself, but you know there's a problem with the way a fight is designed when there's no form of in game communication to make it possible to realistically win.

This is pretty untrue since everything is scripted in coil you can literally make a chat macro to call everything and have sound effects to remind people to read it. Need to call when someone has something? You can use the <#> placeholders to call their name and have a different se for every one, as long as everyone can read, this should be more than enough it is just more cumbersome initially.

[Edli]

statics are everything thats wrong with ff14 endgame.

If the hardest fights in the game can be beaten with 8 complete strangers then it is too easy. We have plenty of content that you can play with pugs, let's have at least one that requires a bit of an effort. I don't think that's too much to ask.

I don't feel like there is something horribly wrong with the endgame, I like how it is actually. Maybe I may have a problem with the lockout but that's pretty much it.

[Zumi]

i highly doubt bahamut will die in coil due to the plotline in the main scenario with omega weapon. if i had to guess the final boss will be Louisoix Leveilleur. unless coil 2 somehow negates this possibility but i wouldnt know as i have only completed T6 so far.


statics are everything thats wrong with ff14 endgame. statics shouldnt be needed

edit:it's kinda hypocritical to punish statics in pvp yet encourage them in pve.

In every current gen MMO i have played high end raiding always works the same way you create a guild or team and go with the same people each week. Your guild group learns together and builds up gear sets from beating bosses you get farther and farther in the raid each week. Only place I seen people call them statics is people on this forum. Personally I call them free company groups, or guild groups.

[o3o]

If running with a static is wrong.... I don't want to be right.

I'd rather run the hardest content in game with people I know, trust, and just plain like to play with.

I'd doubt you'd be happy if Joe blow wiped the group a 3rd time. Or if John doe can't keep the tank alive because he's just plain bad. Yet if it was your friend. You could all be bad together with less rage, and more fun until you are good.

I would hate having to start from square one every single time. And so would a lot of people.

[Zumi]

Every in every MMO they try to design top tier endgame to be challenging for an organized team. If a group of total strangers can go in and beat something, then it would be total cake walk for the organized FC group.

FFXIV does offer content that total strangers and random people can finish which is crystal tower and dungeons. If you want to be the best of the best then you build a team and progress together in the raid.

[Wyrmnus]

statics are like the cool kids cliques in school that dont let anyone in unless they can use them. or like republicans,i dont care about the poor as long as im doing ok. if they are poor they need to try harder.

What they don't realize is that they need us WAAAAAAAAYYYY more than we need them.

[o3o]

What they don't realize is that they need us WAAAAAAAAYYYY more than we need them.

Not really. Try watching the purge and the purge 2. Great movies.

Don't mean to be mean to poor people XD
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